Re: [arch-general] community/e-svn 51937-1 BROKEN? themes fail screen resolution fail etc...
Dne St 15. září 2010 11:08:10 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook napsal(a):
... Is anybody else having a problem with community/e-svn 51937-1 (e17-svn)? Or is it just me? Any suggestions would be welcome... But I already tried moving my ~/.e directory and letting e17 start with a fresh user profile. But it still wouldn't let me save my changes if they included screen resolution changes. ...
Hello, Joe, I also noticed problems with the new release of E17 at my 32bit Arch. It seems, that there was some change upstream that broke compatibility with older themes/backgrounds/icons, so that they are listed in selections dialogs, but are not loaded. Rebuilding the e17-backgrounds, e17-icons and e17-themes packages from the AUR partially solves the problem, as more themes/backgrounds/icons can now be loaded, some still remains broken though. I've also seen the resolution being reset to default, but in my case the switch to desired one was flawless and logout succeeded (OSS ati drivers). Hope, this will be of some help, regards, Nicky -- Don't it always seem to go That you don't know what you've got Till it's gone (Joni Mitchell)
It would appear that on Sep 15, Christoph Rissner did say:
On 09/15/2010 10:19 AM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
community/e-svn 51937-1 (e17-svn) [installed]
I'm also running that version (but on i686), without any problems. I'm using the default theme (is it "Black & White"?), mostly because I think its acceptable and the Theme Selector doesn't show any alternatives :-). Is this thing working?
Well If I didn't want to change the theme and screen resolution I'd not have found anything sufficiently wrong with it. Except for that odd error message I got whenever I added/removed a gadget to/from the desktop or shelf. Which since it did let me make those changes, I wouldn't have bothered to mention...
I remember having an "unreadable font" problem when I first installed e17 and just digged out my list of font pkgs I had to install to get this fixed. IIRC e17 relies on some external fonts, but the PKGBUILD doesn't set the dependencies, but maybe thats fixed by now.
Actually my fonts are ok. It's just that I have a high resolution graphics card/monitor combination and the default is to start at the highest possible resolution. which in this case is 1280x1024 which with my poor eyesight means I can't hardly read anything less than 18 point type without my reading glasses. And if I wear the glasses while looking at the screen my eyes start to water in less than a minute... All I need to do is to get the screen resolution set to 1024x768 and everything comes in to focus. If the Rasterman liked to bother with a visual indicator of which button the tab key had aimed the enter key at I'd just resign myself to doing a menu->settings->panel->screen->resolution to select 1074x768 every time I login. I mean I can always open an xclock whenever I want a time display.
Have you tried to change your profile (Settings Panel/Settings/Profile)?
I suppose I could try the illume profile... Next time I boot Arch I'll try it... Thanks for the suggestion. It would appear that on Sep 15, Nicky726 did say:
Dne St 15. září 2010 11:08:10 Joe(theWordy)Philbrook napsal(a):
... Is anybody else having a problem with community/e-svn 51937-1 (e17-svn)? Or is it just me? Any suggestions would be welcome... But I already tried moving my ~/.e directory and letting e17 start with a fresh user profile. But it still wouldn't let me save my changes if they included screen resolution changes. ...
Hello, Joe,
I also noticed problems with the new release of E17 at my 32bit Arch. It seems, that there was some change upstream that broke compatibility with older themes/backgrounds/icons, so that they are listed in selections dialogs, but are not loaded. Rebuilding the e17-backgrounds, e17-icons and e17-themes packages from the AUR partially solves the problem, as more themes/backgrounds/icons can now be loaded, some still remains broken though. I've also seen the resolution being reset to default, but in my case the switch to desired one was flawless and logout succeeded (OSS ati drivers).
Hope, this will be of some help,
Actually though I hadn't thought my themes were that old. True, some of
them were based on the style of some older themes but they were rewritten...
None of these are work anymore on my Arch installation:
:r!ls ~/.e/e/themes
blingbling.edj
eChrono-0.5.edj
GreenTheme.edj
Kandy.edj
trekpad17.edj
Vulcan_Moonlight_0_6_4_by_Ndjee.edj
Vulcan_Retro_0_6_4_by_Ndjee.edj
Vulcan_Retro_Blue_0_6_4_by_Ndjee.edj
wendy17.edj
It's those "Vulcan" themes that give me the best combo of, "highly visible"
indications of active buttons and menu choices. (Which matters because I
navigate menus with my arrow keys NOT the durned rodent.) I suppose I'll
have to try the AUR themes. Maybe one of them will work for me.
Incidentally, Logout only fails if I alter my screen resolution. (At least
so far...) I suppose that part could have something to do with the Nvidia
upgrade that accompanied the Enlightenment upgrade... I'll have to see if
XFCE can still set the resolution to 1024x768 And save it's settings for
next time...
There is a possibility that I could take a page from the workaround I did
for E16 which being more WM than DE doesn't have a native screen resolution
setting tool, and put "xrandr -s 3" in the file that gets copied to
~/.xinitrc when I select e16 from my startx wrapper script. But since E17
DOES have an internal control for screen resolution, I expect that it will
simply reset it back to it's default 1024x768 setting upon startup. <sigh>
I'll followup to this thread if one of AUR's themes works for me.
-or-
if e17 respects "xrandr" resolution settings...
Thanks guys for info & suggestions.
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Well I found out that e17 is responding to an xrandr command in the
~/.xinitrc upon startx... So I don't need to use e17's native screen
resolution utility... Thus I can get my 1024x768 screen resolution in an
automatic fashion that still lets me log out cleanly...
I also installed those AUR e17-themes and "SOME" of them worked. (more or
less) Though with most of them, Once I apply them, I can no longer
initialize the theme switching tool without a crash. But fortunately I had
the forethought to backup the "bad" ~/.e directory which did at least let me
make some changes, including using the theme switcher... mc made it easy to
copy it back in between e17 test runs. And I found a few themes that do
make it easy to see which button has the keyboards focus. Kind of like
blingbling does only without having to squint to spot the outline.
Two of the best at that are dali41b and japan2007, The latter being more
aesthetically pleasing, and I think slightly more stable at letting me make
more changes without crashing. But it's clock gadget is not for me. And
while it's shape is a little twisted, I CAN read the formers clock.
I find that I can add gadgets to the shelf, But if I try to add one to the
desktop it crashes. (Fortunately the ones I care about are already there)
So while it still isn't quite right, and I still can't use my preferred
themes, at least two of the AUR themes are acceptable. And the xrandr
workaround works well enough so that I'll manage until the next upgrade
anyway...
Thanks again for all the helpful suggestions
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On 09/16/2010 12:21 AM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote:
I also installed those AUR e17-themes and "SOME" of them worked. (more or less) Though with most of them, Once I apply them, I can no longer initialize the theme switching tool without a crash. But fortunately I had the forethought to backup the "bad" ~/.e directory which did at least let me make some changes, including using the theme switcher... mc made it easy to copy it back in between e17 test runs. And I found a few themes that do make it easy to see which button has the keyboards focus. Kind of like blingbling does only without having to squint to spot the outline.
Two of the best at that are dali41b and japan2007, The latter being more aesthetically pleasing, and I think slightly more stable at letting me make more changes without crashing. But it's clock gadget is not for me. And while it's shape is a little twisted, I CAN read the formers clock.
Since you seem to like e17 themes, don't forget to check: http://verdegal37.deviantart.com/gallery/ Agust does most of the themes for e17-stuff.org -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
It would appear that on Sep 16, David C. Rankin did say:
Since you seem to like e17 themes, don't forget to check:
http://verdegal37.deviantart.com/gallery/
Agust does most of the themes for e17-stuff.org
Well it's not so much that I "LIKE" themes, as that I strongly dislike the
default theme (especially dark buttons that don't indicate which one the
keyboard is pointing at. I can't blame the Rasterman for not wanting to
spend the time to make keyboard navigation easier, he LIKES using the
mouse, and he does an awful lot of work on the things he wants to do.
But as long as I'm going to need to use themes to accomplish that
I might as well find some that I like the panels, menus and pop-ups from.
The main graphic don't matter as I use my own specific background images
for each of my 12 task specific desktop areas...
A glance at the background tells me if I'm in the right workspace...
But more themes to pick over are always welcome. So thanks
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