Message: 9 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:48:37 +0200 From: Philipp ?berbacher <hollunder@lavabit.com> Subject: Re: [arch-general] Bashification of initscripts for moderate speedup To: arch-general <arch-general@archlinux.org> Message-ID: <1277916464-sup-8123@eris> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Excerpts from Aaron Griffin's message of 2010-06-30 17:55:40 +0200:

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On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Caleb Cushing <xenoterracide@gmail.com> wrote:

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On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 1:57 PM, Aaron Griffin <aaronmgriffin@gmail.com> wrote:

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I have no idea where the number came from, but both 80 and 132 are standard column widths used for normal and wide terminals.

should be 78 columns I do believe that's the standard for kernel/git it allows for email comments more easily apparently.

No, physical terminals went to 80 columns. The 78 number was likely related to editor chrome, such as line numbering... I'm not sure of the details.

I believe email typically has 78 width due to the fact that "> " is expected for replies.

I also read about 72, and it's my current setting for vim when editing mails, but I have no idea where that comes from...

I'm not sure if this helps or not. When i learned the fortran 77 standard, it utilized columns 7-72, anything in column 1 signified a comment, col 2-5 were reserved for labels, col 6 marked a continuation line, and columns 73-80 had significance I can't recall. The strict layout had historical significance related to punch-cards, which I believe ran 80 columns wide. The f90 standard I believe expanded the usable codespace to 132 columns, but I'm not sure exactly how that number became astandard. I think the punch-card thing might be where the 80 column value comes from though. I'm just not sure which is the chicken and which the egg. _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4