On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 09:35 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 03:32 +0100, Lars Madson wrote:

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Hi Archers,

I just received that external sound card, Terrasoniq Phase X64. It seems to be supported in the kernel using module ice1712.

I've been reading about how to make it work in the last days. the closer I've been to see "it" was by listing some stuff (sorry for imprecision I forgot how since then), the card would appear with a number like this : 4ugxvhgblabla.

I just installed alsa-tools-ice1712 1.0.25-1 But it cannot sees it. Alsaconf shows an ISA P-n-P card...can it be the Terrasoniq?

I don't know really where to start, as making a rule in udev to launch a .sh script, but I guess first I should find a way to see that card pluged somewhere, it's usb. also how to tell my kernel to load ice1712 maybe.

Any advice are welcome!!

Thanks Laurent

Hi Laurent,

"All necessary modules should be detected and loaded automatically by udev" [1]. You don't need to do anything. Two of my sound cards are ice1712 and I didn't configure anything, but they are detected. OTOH those cards are PCI cards.

Anyway, to see if your USB card is detected you e.g. can run

$ hwinfo --usb

Then you should get something like [snip] Vendor: usb 0x0944 "KORG, Inc." Device: usb 0x010f "nanoKONTROL" Revision: "1.00" Driver: "snd-usb-audio" Driver Modules: "snd_usb_audio" [snip] Of cause, here it's not an USB ICE1712 device.

What happens if you run envy24control?

FWIW on my Arch alsa-tools-ice1712 isn't, but alsa-tools is installed.

- Ralf

[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture

PS: Oops, I googled and found out your audio device is USB 2.0, they were (perhaps still are) known as not working with Linux. Regarding to your USB 2.0 device I found a thread from 2010: http://linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lau/2010/9/13/173602 - Ralf

Usb 2 is supported since kernel 2.6 2012/1/28 Lars Madson

Yes I read that also. Usb 2 is still not working on Linux?? hm...o'right

hwinfo --usb is showing the card here :

USB 00.0: 0000 Unclassified device [Created at usb.122] Unique ID: ADDn.ascWuq5nSu7 Parent ID: k4bc.9T1GDCLyFd9 SysFS ID: /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb1/1-1/1-1:1.0 SysFS BusID: 1-1:1.0 Hardware Class: unknown Model: "MUSONIK GmbH PHASE X64 USB" Hotplug: USB Vendor: usb 0x0a4a "MUSONIK GmbH" Device: usb 0x5b01 "MUSONIK GmbH PHASE X64 USB" Revision: "1.00" Serial ID: "no serial number" Speed: 480 Mbps Module Alias: "usb:v0A4Ap5B01d0100dc00dsc00dp00icFFisc00ip00" Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown Attached to: #3 (Hub)

So there might be hope here, while envy24control is not really able to see the card: No ICE1712 cards found

Thx! Laurent

2012/1/28 Ralf Mardorf

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On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 03:32 +0100, Lars Madson wrote:

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Hi Archers,

I just received that external sound card, Terrasoniq Phase X64. It seems to be supported in the kernel using module ice1712.

I've been reading about how to make it work in the last days. the closer I've been to see "it" was by listing some stuff (sorry for imprecision I forgot how since then), the card would appear with a number like this : 4ugxvhgblabla.

I just installed alsa-tools-ice1712 1.0.25-1 But it cannot sees it. Alsaconf shows an ISA P-n-P card...can it be the Terrasoniq?

I don't know really where to start, as making a rule in udev to launch a .sh script, but I guess first I should find a way to see that card

On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 09:35 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: pluged

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somewhere, it's usb. also how to tell my kernel to load ice1712 maybe.

Any advice are welcome!!

Thanks Laurent

Hi Laurent,

"All necessary modules should be detected and loaded automatically by udev" [1]. You don't need to do anything. Two of my sound cards are ice1712 and I didn't configure anything, but they are detected. OTOH those cards are PCI cards.

Anyway, to see if your USB card is detected you e.g. can run

$ hwinfo --usb

Then you should get something like [snip] Vendor: usb 0x0944 "KORG, Inc." Device: usb 0x010f "nanoKONTROL" Revision: "1.00" Driver: "snd-usb-audio" Driver Modules: "snd_usb_audio" [snip] Of cause, here it's not an USB ICE1712 device.

What happens if you run envy24control?

FWIW on my Arch alsa-tools-ice1712 isn't, but alsa-tools is installed.

- Ralf

[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture

PS: Oops, I googled and found out your audio device is USB 2.0, they were (perhaps still are) known as not working with Linux.

Regarding to your USB 2.0 device I found a thread from 2010: http://linuxaudio.org/mailarchive/lau/2010/9/13/173602

- Ralf

On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 16:23 +0100, Lars Madson wrote:

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Usb 2 is supported since kernel 2.6

Yes, I'm using USB 2, but the vendors don't use plug'n'play conventions for their USB 2 audio interfaces. You need a USB driver written for your audio interface.

The new RME Fireface UCX is the only USB2 audio interface I've seen claiming class compliant mode (thus Linux compatibility). Other alternatives are FW devices (if supported bu FFADO) and PCI interfaces. -- Cédric Girard

Does it mean I should send back the phase x64 and look for another one? 2012/1/30 Ralf Mardorf

On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 16:15 +0100, Cédric Girard wrote:

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On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Ralf Mardorf < ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net>wrote:

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On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 16:23 +0100, Lars Madson wrote:

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Usb 2 is supported since kernel 2.6

Yes, I'm using USB 2, but the vendors don't use plug'n'play conventions for their USB 2 audio interfaces. You need a USB driver written for your audio interface.

The new RME Fireface UCX is the only USB2 audio interface I've seen claiming class compliant mode (thus Linux compatibility). Other alternatives are FW devices (if supported bu FFADO) and PCI interfaces.

Whereas PCI is for PCI and PCIe, at least the HDSPe AIO is working. Just hdspconf doesn't work.

[spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ hdspconf

HDSPConf 1.4 - Copyright (C) 2003 Thomas Charbonnel This program comes WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY HDSPConf is free software, see the file copying for details

Looking for HDSP cards : Card 0 : RME AIO S/N 0x579bcc at 0xfdbf0000, irq 18 Card 1 : TerraTec EWX24/96 at 0xbf00, irq 20 Card 2 : TerraTec EWX24/96 at 0xbb00, irq 21 No Hammerfall DSP card found.

Yeah, it's for a laptop, no firewire here, T60, could get a FW PCMCIA if it's improving a lot. I will look for supported card, my price are around 150 - 200 euros 2012/1/30 Lars Madson

Does it mean I should send back the phase x64 and look for another one?

2012/1/30 Ralf Mardorf

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On Mon, 2012-01-30 at 16:15 +0100, Cédric Girard wrote:

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On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Ralf Mardorf < ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net>wrote:

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On Sat, 2012-01-28 at 16:23 +0100, Lars Madson wrote:

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Usb 2 is supported since kernel 2.6

Yes, I'm using USB 2, but the vendors don't use plug'n'play conventions for their USB 2 audio interfaces. You need a USB driver written for your audio interface.

The new RME Fireface UCX is the only USB2 audio interface I've seen claiming class compliant mode (thus Linux compatibility). Other alternatives are FW devices (if supported bu FFADO) and PCI interfaces.

Whereas PCI is for PCI and PCIe, at least the HDSPe AIO is working. Just hdspconf doesn't work.

[spinymouse@archlinux ~]$ hdspconf

HDSPConf 1.4 - Copyright (C) 2003 Thomas Charbonnel This program comes WITH ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY HDSPConf is free software, see the file copying for details

Looking for HDSP cards : Card 0 : RME AIO S/N 0x579bcc at 0xfdbf0000, irq 18 Card 1 : TerraTec EWX24/96 at 0xbf00, irq 20 Card 2 : TerraTec EWX24/96 at 0xbb00, irq 21 No Hammerfall DSP card found.