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David C. Rankin

25 Aug 2009 25 Aug '09

11:49 p.m.

Listmates, I have had my updates hand horribly over the past several days. So bad, I thought there was a bug in pacman. I have even canceled some with ctrl+c out of frustration. I think I just found out why. I was looking to download the i686 lts kernel so I was browsing the various repositories to see which one had it. I tried to access packages on archlinux.unixheads.org, and access to the repository did the same thing -- just hung. The little spinner in firefox was just going round-and-round. Looking at the site it was accessing, I under stood why: http://www.google-analytics.com/ Evidently some of the archlinux repos are using google-analytics to trac web traffic to the packages and this is killing access to the repository. Here is a screenshot: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/hung-repo-ann.jpeg I'm glad to finally know what the problem is, but it may not be helpful to Arch to have the repos killed by some configured (or misconfigured) web traffic analyzer package... -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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Mike Sampson

26 Aug 26 Aug

12:16 a.m.

New subject: [arch-general] http://archlinux.unixheads.org/$repo/os/testing/ - almost usuable "google-analytics"

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 9:49 AM, David C. Rankin wrote:

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Listmates,

I have had my updates hand horribly over the past several days. So bad, I thought there was a bug in pacman. I have even canceled some with ctrl+c out of frustration.

I think I just found out why. I was looking to download the i686 lts kernel so I was browsing the various repositories to see which one had it. I tried to access packages on archlinux.unixheads.org, and access to the repository did the same thing -- just hung. The little spinner in firefox was just going round-and-round. Looking at the site it was accessing, I under stood why:

http://www.google-analytics.com/

Evidently some of the archlinux repos are using google-analytics to trac web traffic to the packages and this is killing access to the repository. Here is a screenshot:

http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/bugs/hung-repo-ann.jpeg

I'm glad to finally know what the problem is, but it may not be helpful to Arch to have the repos killed by some configured (or misconfigured) web traffic analyzer package...

If you used ftp in pacman Google Analytics shouldn't come into play. Regards, Mike

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-- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

Pierre Schmitz

12:25 a.m.

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Am Mittwoch 26 August 2009 01:49:52 schrieb David C. Rankin:

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I'm glad to finally know what the problem is, but it may not be helpful to Arch to have the repos killed by some configured (or misconfigured) web traffic analyzer package...

pacman does not load any html web pages anyway; so there is no problem at all. -- Pierre Schmitz, http://users.archlinux.de/~pierre

David C. Rankin

2:38 a.m.

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On Tuesday 25 August 2009 07:25:27 pm Pierre Schmitz wrote:

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Am Mittwoch 26 August 2009 01:49:52 schrieb David C. Rankin:

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I'm glad to finally know what the problem is, but it may not be helpful to Arch to have the repos killed by some configured (or misconfigured) web traffic analyzer package...

pacman does not load any html web pages anyway; so there is no problem at all.

Pierre, I know you are right, but how do you get around the http:// protocol? I look at the mirrorlist and I see: # United States Server = http://mirror.rit.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/i686 Server = http://archlinux.unixheads.org/$repo/os/i686 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <snip remaining US repos> How does pacman get around it? Wouldn't it be subject to whatever is monitoring http requests on that site just like any other page or file? Hopefully, the hang is just a temporary issue there, but probably every 3rd or 4th update pacman has been hanging. It hasn't done that in the 3-4 months I've enjoyed arch, just in the past few days. Hopefully the atavism will subside. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

Aaron Griffin

3:07 a.m.

New subject: [arch-general] http://archlinux.unixheads.org/$repo/os/testing/ - almost usuable "google-analytics"

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:38 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On Tuesday 25 August 2009 07:25:27 pm Pierre Schmitz wrote:

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Am Mittwoch 26 August 2009 01:49:52 schrieb David C. Rankin:

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I'm glad to finally know what the problem is, but it may not be helpful to Arch to have the repos killed by some configured (or misconfigured) web traffic analyzer package...

pacman does not load any html web pages anyway; so there is no problem at all.

Pierre,

I know you are right, but how do you get around the http:// protocol? I look at the mirrorlist and I see:

# United States Server = http://mirror.rit.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/i686 Server = http://archlinux.unixheads.org/$repo/os/i686 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <snip remaining US repos>

How does pacman get around it? Wouldn't it be subject to whatever is monitoring http requests on that site just like any other page or file?

Hopefully, the hang is just a temporary issue there, but probably every 3rd or 4th update pacman has been hanging. It hasn't done that in the 3-4 months I've enjoyed arch, just in the past few days. Hopefully the atavism will subside.

Google Analytics is javascript. pacman does not parse, understand, or even care about javascript.

Dan McGee

3:09 a.m.

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On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:38 PM, David C. Rankin wrote:

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On Tuesday 25 August 2009 07:25:27 pm Pierre Schmitz wrote:

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Am Mittwoch 26 August 2009 01:49:52 schrieb David C. Rankin:

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I'm glad to finally know what the problem is, but it may not be helpful to Arch to have the repos killed by some configured (or misconfigured) web traffic analyzer package...

pacman does not load any html web pages anyway; so there is no problem at all.

Pierre,

I know you are right, but how do you get around the http:// protocol? I look at the mirrorlist and I see:

# United States Server = http://mirror.rit.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/i686 Server = http://archlinux.unixheads.org/$repo/os/i686 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <snip remaining US repos>

How does pacman get around it? Wouldn't it be subject to whatever is monitoring http requests on that site just like any other page or file?

Hopefully, the hang is just a temporary issue there, but probably every 3rd or 4th update pacman has been hanging. It hasn't done that in the 3-4 months I've enjoyed arch, just in the past few days. Hopefully the atavism will subside.

Google Analytics is javascript. pacman does not parse, understand, or even care about javascript.

Nor does it ever even hit the URL you are referring to. It goes after files only, not directories (which are probably index listings). -Dan

David C. Rankin

4:20 a.m.

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On Tuesday 25 August 2009 10:09:04 pm Dan McGee wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Aaron Griffin wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 9:38 PM, David C.

Rankin wrote:

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On Tuesday 25 August 2009 07:25:27 pm Pierre Schmitz wrote:

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Am Mittwoch 26 August 2009 01:49:52 schrieb David C. Rankin:

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I'm glad to finally know what the problem is, but it may not be helpful to Arch to have the repos killed by some configured (or misconfigured) web traffic analyzer package...

pacman does not load any html web pages anyway; so there is no problem at all.

Pierre,

I know you are right, but how do you get around the http:// protocol? I look at the mirrorlist and I see:

# United States Server = http://mirror.rit.edu/archlinux/$repo/os/i686 Server = http://archlinux.unixheads.org/$repo/os/i686 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ <snip remaining US repos>

How does pacman get around it? Wouldn't it be subject to whatever is monitoring http requests on that site just like any other page or file?

Hopefully, the hang is just a temporary issue there, but probably every 3rd or 4th update pacman has been hanging. It hasn't done that in the 3-4 months I've enjoyed arch, just in the past few days. Hopefully the atavism will subside.

Google Analytics is javascript. pacman does not parse, understand, or even care about javascript.

Nor does it ever even hit the URL you are referring to. It goes after files only, not directories (which are probably index listings).

-Dan

Looks like we can just wad my theory for the pacman hangs up in a ball and send it to file 13. I'll keep an eye on it and see if I can't find anything else out. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com

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