[arch-general] Alternative init system proposal
Hello everyone,
I'm the creator of Obarun
I use runit for PID1 and managing service. Repo is available for all package builded without systemd support. All this package have the name xxx-systemd to avoid trouble with original package. Package are maintained every week (one time per week). all this package doesn't have service declaration to allow other distro to use it like manjaro, alphaos etecetera...
A github with all the pkgbuild used is available here https://github.com/Obarun + some personnal scripts
A complete site is available too with forum and a little wiki here www.obarun.org
Proposal an alternative to systemd on arch system isn't impossible even for complex desktop environment. KF5, XFCE4 work on it.(using consolekit for the moment)
dev is managed by gentoo eudev (working with jcnelson vdev is in progress, but not working for the moment).
I use my system from almost one year now and share it from july 2015. This system is not perfect (i'm not a good dev) and i'm alone to make all the stuff (site, maintaining, new features and so one) but i'm the proof that can be possible and without so much efford.
Isn't the work to arch to propose an alternative. Pacman, makepkg, pkgbuild are beautiful tools which allow user to make every his want. So use it and don't ask anything to arch dev :)
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Eric Vidal
---- On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 07:43:41 +0000 Eric Vidal<eric@obarun.org> wrote ---- Hello everyone, I'm the creator of Obarun I use runit for PID1 and managing service. Repo is available for all package builded without systemd support. All this package have the name xxx-systemd to avoid trouble with original package. Package are maintained every week (one time per week). all this package doesn't have service declaration to allow other distro to use it like manjaro, alphaos etecetera... A github with all the pkgbuild used is available here https://github.com/Obarun + some personnal scripts A complete site is available too with forum and a little wiki here www.obarun.org Proposal an alternative to systemd on arch system isn't impossible even for complex desktop environment. KF5, XFCE4 work on it.(using consolekit for the moment) dev is managed by gentoo eudev (working with jcnelson vdev is in progress, but not working for the moment). I use my system from almost one year now and share it from july 2015. This system is not perfect (i'm not a good dev) and i'm alone to make all the stuff (site, maintaining, new features and so one) but i'm the proof that can be possible and without so much efford. Isn't the work to arch to propose an alternative. Pacman, makepkg, pkgbuild are beautiful tools which allow user to make every his want. So use it and don't ask anything to arch dev :) -- Eric Vidal <eric@obarun.org> This topic again? Seriously? The last 'discussion' from Feb.8th thankfully just died down and apart from spamming subscriber's inboxes had no useful effect... Please, not again.
On 23 February 2016 at 08:32, Frank Schaffhaeuser
This topic again? Seriously? The last 'discussion' from Feb.8th thankfully just died down and apart from spamming subscriber's inboxes had no useful effect... Please, not again
Hang on, I absolutely agree with you that I'm sick of the "alternative init system" argument, but Eric here is saying something quite positive: Arch is a system that gives its users the freedom to do whatever they want with their system. His point is that we should not be bothering the devs with this stuff: he is proof that we as users have everything we need to make our system work however we want it to, and for that we can be grateful. Good for you, Eric. It's great to see someone scratching their own itch in true Open Source style :) Paul
On 23.02.2016 08:43, Eric Vidal wrote:
Hello everyone,
I'm the creator of Obarun I use runit for PID1 and managing service. Repo is available for all package builded without systemd support. All this package have the name xxx-systemd to avoid trouble with original package. Package are maintained every week (one time per week). all this package doesn't have service declaration to allow other distro to use it like manjaro, alphaos etecetera... A github with all the pkgbuild used is available here https://github.com/Obarun + some personnal scripts A complete site is available too with forum and a little wiki here www.obarun.org Proposal an alternative to systemd on arch system isn't impossible even for complex desktop environment. KF5, XFCE4 work on it.(using consolekit for the moment) dev is managed by gentoo eudev (working with jcnelson vdev is in progress, but not working for the moment). I use my system from almost one year now and share it from july 2015. This system is not perfect (i'm not a good dev) and i'm alone to make all the stuff (site, maintaining, new features and so one) but i'm the proof that can be possible and without so much efford.
Isn't the work to arch to propose an alternative. Pacman, makepkg, pkgbuild are beautiful tools which allow user to make every his want. So use it and don't ask anything to arch dev :)
Please stop spamming our inboxes with this topic over and over again! There has been a gigantic thread a few days ago on arch-general. Stefan
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 11:43:41 +0400
Eric Vidal
Hello everyone,
I'm the creator of Obarun I use runit for PID1 and managing service. Repo is available for all package builded without systemd support. All this package have the name xxx-systemd to avoid trouble with original package. Package are maintained every week (one time per week). all this package doesn't have service declaration to allow other distro to use it like manjaro, alphaos etecetera... A github with all the pkgbuild used is available here https://github.com/Obarun + some personnal scripts A complete site is available too with forum and a little wiki here www.obarun.org Proposal an alternative to systemd on arch system isn't impossible even for complex desktop environment. KF5, XFCE4 work on it.(using consolekit for the moment) dev is managed by gentoo eudev (working with jcnelson vdev is in progress, but not working for the moment). I use my system from almost one year now and share it from july 2015. This system is not perfect (i'm not a good dev) and i'm alone to make all the stuff (site, maintaining, new features and so one) but i'm the proof that can be possible and without so much efford.
Isn't the work to arch to propose an alternative. Pacman, makepkg, pkgbuild are beautiful tools which allow user to make every his want. So use it and don't ask anything to arch dev :)
and foo-systemd isn't ambiguous at all! :p
On 23 February 2016 at 09:43, Eric Vidal
Hello everyone,
I'm the creator of Obarun I use runit for PID1 and managing service. Repo is available for all package builded without systemd support.
It's good to see people contributing to the Arch community with interesting projects, instead of empty words. Thank you for your efforts. -- X http://systemd-free.org https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/?SeB=m&K=nous
participants (6)
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Christos Nouskas
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Eric Vidal
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Frank Schaffhaeuser
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Paul Gideon Dann
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Stefan Tatschner
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Øyvind Heggstad