On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Mauro Santos wrote:

On 14-12-2011 12:48, Magnus Therning wrote:

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I just noticed that I no longer get accented characters in my terminals (I've tested lxterminal and gnome-terminal so far).  Instead of the Swedish characters "åäö" I get "???".  Far from ideal.  This used to work a while ago (we're talking days, possibly weeks).  As you notice it works well in non-terminals (like in Chromium where I've writing this).  Anyone else seeing the same behaviour?

A search turned up this answer-less forum post[1] , if there's an answer then I'll re-post it there too :)

/M

[1]: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=131000

Long shot here, but this could be ibus related. See https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=123409 Good luck!

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 01:12:03PM -0400, Norbert Zeh wrote:

Vitor Eiji Justus Sakaguti [2011.12.14 1450 -0200]: [...] I can see the characters just fine in your email, and I'm reading this in mutt running in an xterm. My situation is that I don't want to type any of these characters but want them to display correctly. Following the information on

http://fedoraforums.org/form/archive/index.php/t-66116.html

and a few other google hits I've forgotten by now, I have the following in my .Xdefaults to get these characters to display fine while not producing any strange characters using e.g. Meta-A.

XTerm.utf8: 1 XTerm*metaSendsEscape: true XTerm*eightBitInput: false XTerm*eightBitControl: false XTerm*eightBitOutput: true

Look at the xterm manpage to see what these do. If you don't use xterm but something else, I would suspect there are similar options you can set to get this to work.

As I mentioned, it _used_ to work in the terminals I have installed (lxterminal & gnome-terminal). It did so without any particular configuration. Now it has _stopped_ working in the terminals I have installed, while it still works in other X programs (e.g. GTK stuff like chromium). Unfortunately it looks like I'm alone in this. /M -- Magnus Therning OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus@therning.org jabber: magnus@therning.org twitter: magthe http://therning.org/magnus I invented the term Object-Oriented, and I can tell you I did not have C++ in mind. -- Alan Kay

On 14-12-2011 19:30, Magnus Therning wrote:

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 01:21:20PM +0000, Mauro Santos wrote:

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On 14-12-2011 12:48, Magnus Therning wrote:

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I just noticed that I no longer get accented characters in my terminals (I've tested lxterminal and gnome-terminal so far). Instead of the Swedish characters "åäö" I get "???". Far from ideal. This used to work a while ago (we're talking days, possibly weeks). As you notice it works well in non-terminals (like in Chromium where I've writing this). Anyone else seeing the same behaviour?

A search turned up this answer-less forum post[1] , if there's an answer then I'll re-post it there too :)

/M

[1]: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=131000

You will probably have to tweak your KEYMAP and CONSOLEFONT settings in /etc/rc.conf. I remember that a while back I've changed it so I could get accented characters in ttys, however I don't remember well if things worked in terminal emulators but I think it did work fine (I use XFCE and terminal as a terminal emulator). For the record I'm using and I've always used bash.

For reference/example this is what I have in /etc/rc.conf KEYMAP="pt-latin9 compose.latin1" CONSOLEFONT="lat9v-16"

So, what has changed in the last few weeks that would make my old, working configuration no longer work?

/M

Thinking better about it, check your pacman logs for any font updates and try setting the terminal emulator to use a different font, maybe to a font that renders properly in other places like a text editor. -- Mauro Santos

On 15-12-2011 08:51, Magnus Therning wrote:

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 21:07, Mauro Santos wrote: [...]

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Thinking better about it, check your pacman logs for any font updates and try setting the terminal emulator to use a different font, maybe to a font that renders properly in other places like a text editor.

There is nothing that stands out, and changing the font doesn't improve things at all :(

I also tried logging into Gnome3 (using GDM) and then I do get the accented characters, in both lxterminal and gnome-terminal.

/M

The only thing that comes to mind now is that gnome3 is overriding (and correctly setting) your keyboard layout. Maybe you can try 'setxkbmap -query' and see if you spot any differences between the setup that works and the one that doesn't. -- Mauro Santos

On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 02:36, Damjan wrote: [...]

The symptoms do not seem like a keyboard layout problem (which would affect everything in X) or a font problem.

Also, the font and layout settings in rc.conf (or /etc/vconsole.conf) have NO effect for X.

What this looks like is the setup of the locale, either in the shell or the terminal (they are different programs and the locale can be different).

To check this, first run these 2 commands:

 $ locale  $ env  | egrep 'LC_|LANG'

it will tell you the state of the shell

second, run:

 $ xargs -0 -n1 < /proc/-the-pid-of-the-terminal-/environ | \     egrep 'LC_|LANG'

it will tell you what the terminal thinks the locale is.

My guess is that the terminal will not have the proper locale, and unfortunately it's not very clear how the environment of the X session is set. Especially since different login managers have different scripts to start the session.

I set the locale in my ~/.xprofile - which by most long standing conventions should working all login managers. Alas, I can't guarantee it (damn non-standard session scripts).

Spot on! As you can see in an email from me yesterday :) I even solved it in the way you suggest, by setting the locale in ~/.xprofile :) /M -- Magnus Therning                      OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4 email: magnus@therning.org   jabber: magnus@therning.org twitter: magthe               http://therning.org/magnus