[arch-general] Is preload really working ??
Hi, I'm running preload since about two months, but I haven't seen any improvement in program startup times especially firefox, which I launch and close every now and then. -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com मेरा भारत महान ! मम भारत: महत्तम भवतु !
On 05/05/10 00:07, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
Hi,
I'm running preload since about two months, but I haven't seen any improvement in program startup times especially firefox, which I launch and close every now and then.
I think you have experimentally found the answer to your own question...
On 05/04/2010 08:16 PM, Allan McRae wrote:
On 05/05/10 00:07, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
Hi,
I'm running preload since about two months, but I haven't seen any improvement in program startup times especially firefox, which I launch and close every now and then.
I think you have experimentally found the answer to your own question...
What's the fix then ? I saw a big list of .so's in /var/lib/preload/something.state -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com मेरा भारत महान ! मम भारत: महत्तम भवतु !
On Tuesday May 4 2010 18:23:20 Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
hat's the fix then ?
I guess he meant preloading doesn't really make much of a difference... -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
On 05/05/2010 07:11 PM, Marc Deop i Argemí wrote:
On Tuesday May 4 2010 18:23:20 Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
hat's the fix then ?
I guess he meant preloading doesn't really make much of a difference...
No I meant that there is not significant speed gain with preload in my case. Is anybody experiencing a whopping speed gain with preload ? -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com मेरा भारत महान ! मम भारत: महत्तम भवतु !
Preload never worked for me, may be the performance improvment was too low for me to notice. You can also try readahead-list but I am skeptical about that too. On Tue, May 04, 2010 at 09:53:20PM +0530, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
On 05/04/2010 08:16 PM, Allan McRae wrote:
On 05/05/10 00:07, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
Hi,
I'm running preload since about two months, but I haven't seen any improvement in program startup times especially firefox, which I launch and close every now and then.
I think you have experimentally found the answer to your own question...
What's the fix then ? I saw a big list of .so's in /var/lib/preload/something.state
-- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com मेरा भारत महान ! मम भारत: महत्तम भवतु !
* Raghavendra D Prabhu <raghu.prabhu13@gmail.com> [05.05.2010 22:09]:
Preload never worked for me, may be the performance improvment was too low for me to notice. You can also try readahead-list but I am skeptical about that too.
Afaik preload is supposed to preload frequently used applications, right? So I guess it should be easy to measure if it works or not by comparing the ram usage with and without starting the preload daemon. On my machine, preload never worked, the ram usage didn't go up at all, even after months of usage. I gave readahead-list a try as well. There's definitively an effect there, you see that the program is working. But the speed gain was far less than expected, e.g. uzbl still needed a moment to start the first time. Starting it a second time of course goes faster with or without readahead-list and the boot didn't go faster as well, it was even slower than without it. Well, I simply kicked all those wannabe speed improvers out of my system, they don't do what they should do in a way that satisfies me.
preload works for what it is made. It is not made to speed up firefox startup time. Firefox loads a bunch of sqlite files in your /home. This and other things might explain your slow startup time of firefox. One of the ways to speed up firefox is to put your ~/.mozilla in a tmpfs (doing it the right way, else you loose your data). This have been discussed somewhere I think. How else ? Please complain about Firefox for its slow startup time and not about preload for not speeding it up. Try chromium if you want quick startup time ;-)
solsTiCe d'Hiver <solstice.dhiver@gmail.com>:
One of the ways to speed up firefox is to put your ~/.mozilla in a tmpfs (doing it the right way, else you loose your data). This have been discussed somewhere I think. How else ? You mean that wikientry? http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Speed-up_Firefox_using_tmpfs
-- Gruß, Johannes http://hehejo.de
On 05/06/2010 01:51 PM, solsTiCe d'Hiver wrote:
preload works for what it is made.
It is not made to speed up firefox startup time. Firefox loads a bunch of sqlite files in your /home. This and other things might explain your slow startup time of firefox.
One of the ways to speed up firefox is to put your ~/.mozilla in a tmpfs (doing it the right way, else you loose your data). This have been discussed somewhere I think. How else ?
Please complain about Firefox for its slow startup time and not about preload for not speeding it up.
Try chromium if you want quick startup time ;-)
I can't leave firefox for it has my favorite addons :) I have chromium too, but I use it less often when I want to check mail, facebook, etc. - normally five minute tasks. -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com मेरा भारत महान ! मम भारत: महत्तम भवतु !
On 05/06/2010 01:58 PM, Johannes Held wrote:
solsTiCe d'Hiver<solstice.dhiver@gmail.com>:
One of the ways to speed up firefox is to put your ~/.mozilla in a tmpfs (doing it the right way, else you loose your data). This have been discussed somewhere I think. How else ? You mean that wikientry? http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Speed-up_Firefox_using_tmpfs
I did this to test how well tmpfs works for me: mv .mozilla /dev/shm/moz ln -s /dev/shm/moz .mozilla There was some difference, but not too much as expected. -- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com मेरा भारत महान ! मम भारत: महत्तम भवतु !
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan <lists@itech7.com> wrote:
On 05/06/2010 01:58 PM, Johannes Held wrote:
solsTiCe d'Hiver<solstice.dhiver@gmail.com>:
One of the ways to speed up firefox is to put your ~/.mozilla in a tmpfs (doing it the right way, else you loose your data). This have been discussed somewhere I think. How else ?
You mean that wikientry? http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Speed-up_Firefox_using_tmpfs
I did this to test how well tmpfs works for me:
mv .mozilla /dev/shm/moz ln -s /dev/shm/moz .mozilla
There was some difference, but not too much as expected.
-- Nilesh Govindarajan Site & Server Administrator www.itech7.com मेरा भारत महान ! मम भारत: महत्तम भवतु !
You should look into the Vacuum Places Improved addon for Firefox It defrags the sqlite places file. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/13878 -- Alexander Lam
You mean that wikientry? http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Speed-up_Firefox_using_tmpfs
I did this to test how well tmpfs works for me:
mv .mozilla /dev/shm/moz ln -s /dev/shm/moz .mozilla
There was some difference, but not too much as expected.
From what I understand this is to keep the disk from spinning up, I use (a modified version) of this on my laptop. Christoph
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Alexander Lam
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Allan McRae
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Christoph Rissner
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Johannes Held
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Marc Deop i Argemí
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Nilesh Govindarajan
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Raghavendra D Prabhu
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solsTiCe d'Hiver
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Uli Armbruster