All, For TDE I have several PKGBUILD groups for installation defined: tde-base : minimum possible install (up to tdebase) tde-core : 'tde-base' + common additional packages tde-dev : 'tde-core' + development bindings and packages tde-extra : 'tde-core' + additional desktop features tde-multimedia : 'tde-core' + all AV and CD/DVD apps (amarok, kaffeine, etc.) tde-complete : 'tde-extra' + all building packages I define what belongs in each group by including every group a package belongs to in the groups=() array. For example, if I want k3b included in every install except 'tde-base' I then just define the groups array for k3b as follows: groups=('tde-core' 'tde-dev' 'tde-extra' 'tde-multimedia' 'tde-complete') I am just wondering if a shortcut exits somewhere, like some meta-file that holds relationships between groups? Is there some way at the group level to some way to say group 'tde-base' automatically gets included when 'tde-core' is chosen and that 'tde-core' gets included when 'tde-extra' is chosen? I haven't found anything that says that, but I didn't entirely understand what some of the 'meta' packages for kde4 were doing and thought I would check. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.