Hi,

Liberapay uses Stripe or PayPal under the hood, so you are using the same but adding another actor in the middle.

Perhaps the day will come when https://btcpayserver.org is run, a Lightning invoice can be generated, and Arch Linux holds its treasury outside of the fiat system. ;-) -- Cheers, Ralph.

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 12:37:13PM +0100, Frédéric Tobias Christ via arch-general wrote:

Hi

On 2/11/22 12:32, Ralph Corderoy via arch-general wrote:

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Hi,

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Liberapay uses Stripe or PayPal under the hood, so you are using the same but adding another actor in the middle. Perhaps the day will come when https://btcpayserver.org is run, a Lightning invoice can be generated, and Arch Linux holds its treasury outside of the fiat system. ;-) If crypto, why not something without PoW with less envirnomental impact? For instance https://nano.org/sustainability ?

Lets not dwell into a cryptocoin discussion. Arch is currently limited to the donation options that SPI offers. -- Morten Linderud PGP: 9C02FF419FECBE16

There's also the GitHub Sponsor program: https://github.com/sponsors They use their normal billing process, so I guess it depends on what payment method they allow. I personally use PayPal, but perhaps they take card directly or something like that? Either way, I thought I'd throw that in the mix. Best wishes: Anton Hvornum On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 6:38 PM Keith Scheiwiller via arch-general wrote:

Just want to chime in that while I'm not particularly informed on the options for donating to projects, liberapay does look quite nice compared to SPI (though the $100 cap per person is a little odd in my opinion).

I'm personally not all too fussed about the PayPal fees (though I understand others' concerns towards it). I'll continue to use SPI though unless the team indicates options like liberapay are equally as frictionless on their end.

Best, Keith

On Fri, Feb 11, 2022 at 3:28 AM Frédéric Tobias Christ via arch-general wrote:

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Hi all,

I want to donate to Arch Linux. However, the existing options both take high fees (SPI: Transaction fees via PayPal, Click&Pledge: 2.75% platform + 2,5 % credit card fee ) and I don't want to finance PayPal. What about adding Liberapay [1] https://liberapay.com/ as a non-profit donations platform? They don't take any monthly fees https://liberapay.com/about/faq#how-funded [2], just pass on the payment process fees. For instance, Europeans can use SEPA transactions (without any fees).

What do you think about it?

PS: I also posted this [3] in the forum, but noticed shortly after that another thread about donation remains unnoticed by the people in charge.

[1] https://liberapay.com/ [2] https://liberapay.com/about/faq#how-funded [3] https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=2021543#p2021543

-- Beste Grüße Frédéric Christ