[arch-general] 2.6.35-ARCH panic in VirtualBox 3.2.8-1
Tonight I did a clean install of Arch in a VirtualBox VM and after updating the system I can't boot anymore because there's a kernel panic, see attached screenshot for the output error log [0] Ok, I was a dumb because I didn't make any snapshot before upgrading -was working well with ISO shipped kernel- nor made a backup of kernel files in /boot before blindly upgrade, but I think this a good time for ask you seriously consider implementing an automatic backup for kernel before upgrading to a new one (I know this had been treated no so much time ago in the list and that there's an active wiki about this topic). By the way, thanks a lot for fixing K3b so fast. Best, -Martín [0] <goog_933442720> http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/5/7/2852027/My%20Documents/Screenshots/arc...
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Martín Cigorraga <martosurf7600@gmail.com> wrote:
Tonight I did a clean install of Arch in a VirtualBox VM and after updating the system I can't boot anymore because there's a kernel panic, see attached screenshot for the output error log [0]
Ok, I was a dumb because I didn't make any snapshot before upgrading -was working well with ISO shipped kernel- nor made a backup of kernel files in /boot before blindly upgrade, but I think this a good time for ask you seriously consider implementing an automatic backup for kernel before upgrading to a new one (I know this had been treated no so much time ago in the list and that there's an active wiki about this topic).
By the way, thanks a lot for fixing K3b so fast. Best, -Martín
[0] <goog_933442720> http://www.fileden.com/files/2010/5/7/2852027/My%20Documents/Screenshots/arc...
I always have a backup kernel that I just built once, and never touch to avoid these issues. Kernel26-lts might be a good one to use for the backup kernel. I think that having an automatic backup would just add unnecessary complexity. Just my 2 cents. Cheers!
Hi Thomas, In fact I agree with you. If we start adding one 'feature' after another we will end with a *buntu system in the near future. List, please forgot my mail, thanks.
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Martín Cigorraga <martosurf7600@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Thomas,
In fact I agree with you. If we start adding one 'feature' after another we will end with a *buntu system in the near future. List, please forgot my mail, thanks.
Whats wrong with adding features?
On Aug 21, 2010, at 8:25 AM, Madhurya Kakati <mkakati2805@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Martín Cigorraga <martosurf7600@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Thomas,
In fact I agree with you. If we start adding one 'feature' after another we will end with a *buntu system in the near future. List, please forgot my mail, thanks.
Whats wrong with adding features?
This functionality [kernel backup] could be provided by a pacman addon via the (proposed) libalpm hooks mechanism, but it doesn't belong in pacman core. If one were to implement such hooks (hello out there there there...), a package could be created providing this facility. C Anthony [mobile]
@Madhurya: actually I was ironic about that - please note I didn't wanted to talk bad about *buntu-land, I myself get started in GNU/Linux thanks to Ubuntu. Of course adding features isn't wrong, but I used that word to name an automatic process that goes straight against Arch's spirit if implemented at a core level, and only realized that after reading Thomas reply - see this link please [0]. There's a direct relationship between automation and simplicity: you can't get both at the same time all the time. While an automatic system don't have to be complicated per-se, it *will* take away your freedom and control over the processes it executes again going against Arch's way. One ot the things I like most of this distro is the plenty space it gives the user to do virtually anything while remaining ultra poweful and easy enough to use without stumbling with too much low level tasks in your daily use. Personally I *allways* backup before any important/huge update/upgrade. Anthony's proposed solution is cool, but until that finally arrives I think that creating a simple script and putting it in the path will be enough to backup kernels (also you'll need to add manually the menu entry to whatever boot manager you use). Regards, -Martín [0] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/The_Arch_Way
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C Anthony Risinger
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Madhurya Kakati
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Martín Cigorraga
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Thomas Dziedzic