On 12/16/22 15:46, Andreas Radke wrote:

I suggest to fix this lack of init choice/alternative. I'd like to implement it into the official Arch Linux repos allowing to choose some different init replacement. We can either just add a 2nd init system in the most simple way or allow real init-freedom[3] offering full choice and leave it up to be further filled by the community.

I remember the discussions well. Most of which took place on the arch-general list at the time. It may be helpful to take feedback from the arch-general list, at least to get feedback on the current community thoughts on the matter. For me, I think it is a great idea Andreas. While for desktop use systemd has captured a majority of the distros -- and no complaints, the take-it-or-leave-it if you want Arch seems a bit restrictive. While the change from init-scripts to systemd was uncomfortable at the time, the transition was done well. That said, the point made about providing an alternative init to help with implementation on new architectures is well-taken. While systemd does provide a great deal of functionality, it also fairly heavy. Keeping systemd as a default while providing an alternative init for those that would benefit from -- or just like to use -- an alternative init sounds like a solid way to go. Essentially giving Arch the best of both worlds. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.