[arch-general] Add "phonon-xine" to KDE deps?
Hey, I've found that I hardly get any sound at all in KDE without the phonon-xine package installed since KDE 4.3. I wondered if this is a general thing or if it occurred to me just because my installation is rather old. If it is generally needed, why not make it a dependency? Or should I not require it at all and it is a misconfiguration on my side? Insight appreciated :) -- Sven-Hendrik
AFAIK there are several issues with KDE’s default phonon gstreamer-backend. For example I had no sound in Amarok until I switched to the xine backend. Perhaps this could be mentioned in an .install message or something? Edgar Am oder ungefähr am Montag, 10. August 2009, um 20:19:24 schrieb Sven-Hendrik Haase:
Hey,
I've found that I hardly get any sound at all in KDE without the phonon-xine package installed since KDE 4.3. I wondered if this is a general thing or if it occurred to me just because my installation is rather old. If it is generally needed, why not make it a dependency? Or should I not require it at all and it is a misconfiguration on my side?
Insight appreciated :)
-- Sven-Hendrik
Edgar Kalkowski wrote:
AFAIK there are several issues with KDE’s default phonon gstreamer-backend. For example I had no sound in Amarok until I switched to the xine backend. Perhaps this could be mentioned in an .install message or something?
Edgar
Am oder ungefähr am Montag, 10. August 2009, um 20:19:24 schrieb Sven-Hendrik Haase:
Hey,
I've found that I hardly get any sound at all in KDE without the phonon-xine package installed since KDE 4.3. I wondered if this is a general thing or if it occurred to me just because my installation is rather old. If it is generally needed, why not make it a dependency? Or should I not require it at all and it is a misconfiguration on my side?
Insight appreciated :)
-- Sven-Hendrik
Second that, had to install xine backend for sound in Amarok.
Manne
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 11:56:13 Manne Merak wrote:
Edgar Kalkowski wrote:
Am oder ungefähr am Montag, 10. August 2009, um 20:19:24 schrieb Sven- Hendrik Haase:
Hey,
I've found that I hardly get any sound at all in KDE without the phonon-xine package installed since KDE 4.3. I wondered if this is a general thing or if it occurred to me just because my installation is rather old. If it is generally needed, why not make it a dependency? Or should I not require it at all and it is a misconfiguration on my side?
Second that, had to install xine backend for sound in Amarok.
Thirded :) I am still missing notification sounds from kopete though. And now I don't have any default device in system settings -> multimedia -> audio output -> * -- Shridhar
Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 11:56:13 Manne Merak wrote:
Edgar Kalkowski wrote:
Am oder ungefähr am Montag, 10. August 2009, um 20:19:24 schrieb Sven-
Hendrik Haase:
Hey,
I've found that I hardly get any sound at all in KDE without the phonon-xine package installed since KDE 4.3. I wondered if this is a general thing or if it occurred to me just because my installation is rather old. If it is generally needed, why not make it a dependency? Or should I not require it at all and it is a misconfiguration on my side?
Second that, had to install xine backend for sound in Amarok.
Thirded :) I am still missing notification sounds from kopete though. And now I don't have any default device in system settings -> multimedia -> audio output -> *
Did you all install the needed gstreamer plugins for the files you wanted to play? Allan
Am Dienstag 11 August 2009 08:52:34 schrieb Allan McRae:
Did you all install the needed gstreamer plugins for the files you wanted to play?
Qt only installs the base plugins which support playing ogg and wave files. For anything else you need to install other plugins. In general the phonon backend thing is a big mess and con only be solved by upstream. -- Pierre Schmitz, http://users.archlinux.de/~pierre
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:22:34 Allan McRae wrote:
Thirded :) I am still missing notification sounds from kopete though. And now I don't have any default device in system settings -> multimedia -> audio output -> *
Did you all install the needed gstreamer plugins for the files you wanted to play?
Yes I think. $ pacman -Qs gstreamer local/gstreamer0.10 0.10.23-1 GStreamer Multimedia Framework local/gstreamer0.10-base 0.10.23-1 GStreamer Multimedia Framework Base plugin libraries local/gstreamer0.10-base-plugins 0.10.23-2 (gstreamer0.10-plugins) GStreamer Multimedia Framework Base Plugins (gst-plugins-base) However doing pacman -Ss gstreamer isn't exactly friendly. What exactly good, bad and ugly plugins mean? Do I need ffmpeg plugins for mp3? FWIW, can we just default to xine backend? I don't know much about either of them but one of them got sound and other one didn't. I hope thats not a too- stupid of a request. -- Shridhar
On 11.08.2009 09:38, Shridhar Daithankar wrote:
On Tuesday 11 August 2009 12:22:34 Allan McRae wrote:
Thirded :) I am still missing notification sounds from kopete though. And now I don't have any default device in system settings -> multimedia -> audio output -> *
Did you all install the needed gstreamer plugins for the files you wanted to play?
Yes I think.
$ pacman -Qs gstreamer local/gstreamer0.10 0.10.23-1 GStreamer Multimedia Framework local/gstreamer0.10-base 0.10.23-1 GStreamer Multimedia Framework Base plugin libraries local/gstreamer0.10-base-plugins 0.10.23-2 (gstreamer0.10-plugins) GStreamer Multimedia Framework Base Plugins (gst-plugins-base)
However doing pacman -Ss gstreamer isn't exactly friendly. What exactly good, bad and ugly plugins mean? Do I need ffmpeg plugins for mp3?
FWIW, can we just default to xine backend? I don't know much about either of them but one of them got sound and other one didn't. I hope thats not a too- stupid of a request.
I think the request is good. Since I'm just a lowly Arch user, could any of the KDE package maintainers/Arch devs have a say here? From the sounds of it, it appears as though Phonon is still flawed to an extent that it shouldn't be the default.
I would say, that this should stay as it is, as long as its the default upstream. Adding all kind of gstreamer plugins as depends would be a workaround, but that isnt very KISS, too. Phonon should say something like "I cant play that format for you. Please configure your backend for this file type."
participants (7)
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Allan McRae
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Edgar Kalkowski
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Fabian Schölzel
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Manne Merak
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Pierre Schmitz
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Shridhar Daithankar
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Sven-Hendrik Haase