[arch-general] Help understanding which interface OpenOffice is using?
Listmates, I have installed openoffice-core on my x86 box and I am trying to understand what user interface it is using and how to change it if I can. I suspect the very block like interface and large menu and menubar fonts are the result of the GTK interface oo on arch uses by default. (I could have this backwards). The default UI looks really awkward to me. It brings back bad memories of the days when the UI was limited to what you see on xpdf. The wiki(http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Openoffice) suggests an environment variable setting of OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=kde soffice, but warns that "KDE look will be removed in Openoffice3". What's the status of that? When will the QT interface go away? What is the best way to get a better looking interface on KDE3. I have tried using 'OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=kde soffice', but so far I get an error when attempting this over XDMCP. Is there something that will work in this situation as well? Thanks for any help or suggestions you can give. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
I've OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome and OOo integrates nicely with my GNOME. -- Abhishek
David C. Rankin wrote:
Listmates,
I have installed openoffice-core on my x86 box and I am trying to understand what user interface it is using and how to change it if I can. I suspect the very block like interface and large menu and menubar fonts are the result of the GTK interface oo on arch uses by default. (I could have this backwards). The default UI looks really awkward to me. It brings back bad memories of the days when the UI was limited to what you see on xpdf.
The wiki(http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Openoffice) suggests an environment variable setting of OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=kde soffice, but warns that "KDE look will be removed in Openoffice3". What's the status of that? When will the QT interface go away?
What is the best way to get a better looking interface on KDE3. I have tried using 'OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=kde soffice', but so far I get an error when attempting this over XDMCP. Is there something that will work in this situation as well? Thanks for any help or suggestions you can give.
Try installing kdemod3-gtk-qt-engine. It makes Gnome/GTK apps use your KDE settings. Its configuration screen gets added into the KDE control center under Appearance & Themes -> GTK Styles and Fonts. If you look at my desktop snapshot, all 3 of those apps (Thunderbird, Eclipse, and Firefox) are GTK apps, and yet their UI's are picking up my KDE font and color settings. (Otherwise the windows would show up in a grey color.) HTH, DR
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
If you look at my desktop snapshot
Umm ... I meant *this* desktop snapshot: http://darose.net/DaroseDesktop.png DR
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
If you look at my desktop snapshot
Umm ... I meant *this* desktop snapshot: http://darose.net/DaroseDesktop.png
DR
The holy grail -- a workable dark theme! Cool look. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
David C. Rankin wrote:
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
If you look at my desktop snapshot Umm ... I meant *this* desktop snapshot: http://darose.net/DaroseDesktop.png
DR
The holy grail -- a workable dark theme! Cool look.
Thanks. Yeah, I like it. I spend a LOT of time coding (including a good bit of late-night coding) so I have a strong preference for bright(ish) text on a dark background. Trying to work with black text on a white background pretty much feels like having a bright lamp shining right in my face all day! :-) The KDE3 color scheme file for it is available here, btw, if anyone wants it: http://www.darose.net/Dark-Blue-Grey-Dave4.kcsrc DR
The KDE3 color scheme file for it is available here, btw, if anyone wants it: http://www.darose.net/Dark-Blue-Grey-Dave4.kcsrc
DR
Very appreciated =] I do a lot of late-night coding also =D -- Malformed message exception
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
If you look at my desktop snapshot Umm ... I meant *this* desktop snapshot: http://darose.net/DaroseDesktop.png
DR
The holy grail -- a workable dark theme! Cool look.
Thanks. Yeah, I like it. I spend a LOT of time coding (including a good bit of late-night coding) so I have a strong preference for bright(ish) text on a dark background. Trying to work with black text on a white background pretty much feels like having a bright lamp shining right in my face all day! :-)
The KDE3 color scheme file for it is available here, btw, if anyone wants it: http://www.darose.net/Dark-Blue-Grey-Dave4.kcsrc
DR
Got it, Thanks! Here, throw this in as a contrasting text color on the dark background: #5C6DEF (now that works!) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
David C. Rankin wrote:
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
The KDE3 color scheme file for it is available here, btw, if anyone wants it: http://www.darose.net/Dark-Blue-Grey-Dave4.kcsrc
DR
Got it, Thanks!
Here, throw this in as a contrasting text color on the dark background: #5C6DEF (now that works!)
Hmmm .... Cool looking, but a little too blue for use as my primary text color. Personal pref, of course, though. Thanks, DR
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
The KDE3 color scheme file for it is available here, btw, if anyone wants it: http://www.darose.net/Dark-Blue-Grey-Dave4.kcsrc
DR
Got it, Thanks!
Here, throw this in as a contrasting text color on the dark background: #5C6DEF (now that works!)
Hmmm ....
Cool looking, but a little too blue for use as my primary text color. Personal pref, of course, though.
Thanks,
DR
Yep, I used it as the "followed link" color. Just for grins I toyed with the dark scheme to add a subtle bit of contrast to the window elements on the dark scheme so I made it available as well. (it has changes to the alternating list highlight color, the link and followed link colors incorporated): http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/kde/dcr-darkblue.kcsrc screenshot: http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshots/kde/colorScheme_dark-333-men... Since you provided the dark scheme, I thought I would provide a light scheme for anyone else that might want to give it a try. http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/kde/dcr-Blue.kcsrc That's my diversion for Friday:-) -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
David C. Rankin wrote:
Just for grins I toyed with the dark scheme to add a subtle bit of contrast to the window elements on the dark scheme so I made it available as well. (it has changes to the alternating list highlight color, the link and followed link colors incorporated):
http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/kde/dcr-darkblue.kcsrc
screenshot:
http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshots/kde/colorScheme_dark-333-men...
Neat! I dig the glowing menus!
Since you provided the dark scheme, I thought I would provide a light scheme for anyone else that might want to give it a try.
http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/kde/dcr-Blue.kcsrc
Permissions prob, methinks: Access forbidden! You don't have permission to access the requested object. It is either read-protected or not readable by the server. If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 403 www.3111skyline.com Fri May 1 15:15:46 2009 Apache/2.2.11 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.11 OpenSSL/0.9.8k DR
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
Just for grins I toyed with the dark scheme to add a subtle bit of contrast to the window elements on the dark scheme so I made it available as well. (it has changes to the alternating list highlight color, the link and followed link colors incorporated):
http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/kde/dcr-darkblue.kcsrc
screenshot:
http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshots/kde/colorScheme_dark-333-men...
Neat! I dig the glowing menus!
Since you provided the dark scheme, I thought I would provide a light scheme for anyone else that might want to give it a try.
http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/kde/dcr-Blue.kcsrc
Permissions prob, methinks:
Access forbidden!
You don't have permission to access the requested object. It is either read-protected or not readable by the server.
If you think this is a server error, please contact the webmaster. Error 403 www.3111skyline.com Fri May 1 15:15:46 2009 Apache/2.2.11 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.11 OpenSSL/0.9.8k
OK, I'm contacted! Fixed. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
Just for grins I toyed with the dark scheme to add a subtle bit of contrast to the window elements on the dark scheme so I made it available as well. (it has changes to the alternating list highlight color, the link and followed link colors incorporated):
http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/kde/dcr-darkblue.kcsrc
screenshot:
http://www.3111skyline.com/download/screenshots/kde/colorScheme_dark-333-men...
Neat! I dig the glowing menus!
The glowing menus are from my emerald theme for compiz. I'm put that on the server as well. http://www.3111skyline.com/download/Archlinux/emerald/dcrAeroAtmos-yellowTB.... Just unzip it to ~/.emerald/themes to make it available as a them in the emerald settings manager. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
David C. Rankin wrote:
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
David Rosenstrauch wrote:
If you look at my desktop snapshot Umm ... I meant *this* desktop snapshot: http://darose.net/DaroseDesktop.png
DR
The holy grail -- a workable dark theme! Cool look.
Thanks. Yeah, I like it. I spend a LOT of time coding (including a good bit of late-night coding) so I have a strong preference for bright(ish) text on a dark background. Trying to work with black text on a white background pretty much feels like having a bright lamp shining right in my face all day! :-)
The KDE3 color scheme file for it is available here, btw, if anyone wants it: http://www.darose.net/Dark-Blue-Grey-Dave4.kcsrc
DR
If anyone's interested, I tweaked my funky dark KDE3 theme slightly, and I'm liking it a lot. I changed the "selected text" colors to something much more pleasing to the eye. Old: http://www.darose.net/Dark-Blue-Grey-Dave4.png New: http://www.darose.net/Dark-Blue-Grey-Dave9.png New theme file available here: http://www.darose.net/Dark-Blue-Grey-Dave9.kcsrc DR
David Rosenstrauch schrieb:
Try installing kdemod3-gtk-qt-engine. It makes Gnome/GTK apps use your KDE settings. Its configuration screen gets added into the KDE control center under Appearance & Themes -> GTK Styles and Fonts.
You might as well use gtk-qt-engine from the extra repo. I prefer qtcurve, which is a common style that works for qt3/kde3, qt4/kde4 and gtk2.
Thomas Bächler wrote:
David Rosenstrauch schrieb:
Try installing kdemod3-gtk-qt-engine. It makes Gnome/GTK apps use your KDE settings. Its configuration screen gets added into the KDE control center under Appearance & Themes -> GTK Styles and Fonts.
You might as well use gtk-qt-engine from the extra repo.
Will that work with kdemod3 (which is what he's running)? DR
On Wednesday 29 April 2009 12:38:37 David Rosenstrauch wrote:
Try installing kdemod3-gtk-qt-engine. It makes Gnome/GTK apps use your KDE settings. Its configuration screen gets added into the KDE control center under Appearance & Themes -> GTK Styles and Fonts.
If you look at my desktop snapshot, all 3 of those apps (Thunderbird, Eclipse, and Firefox) are GTK apps, and yet their UI's are picking up my KDE font and color settings. (Otherwise the windows would show up in a grey color.)
HTH,
DR
Ok, Finally got around to making openOffice, etc. look decent. The keys were: 1. Install kdemod3-gtk-qt-engine (if using kdemod3) qtcurve-gtk2 qtcurve-kde3 gtk-chtheme 2. Select Theme in qtconfig 3. Set a smaller font size with gtk-chtheme Now openOffice looks great! -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com
Also, something that I was reminded of recently: maybe it's worth trying go-oo, the OOo fork. http://go-oo.org. Anyway, nice that you fixed it. Cheers, -AT
participants (7)
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Abhishek Dasgupta
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Andrei Thorp
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David C. Rankin
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David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E.
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David Rosenstrauch
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Guilherme M. Nogueira
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Thomas Bächler