from the response i got the installation is going very well. i had two users reporting grub installs but is not working. this is weird because it's still the same old package. it would be nice if somebody who knows that our package works for him will try installing grub from the installer of the new isos. we should improve grub for the future. i hope to get it compile natively. but for now i don't time for that. other distributions are adding more patches (frugal, gentoo...). you all may test them and report if you find a good solution for your hardware. a good place for searching is also the Cross-LFS book. They had recently a similar discussion on their devel list. before i want to declare them official i'd like to make sure that grub also works if it is only a small fix. anyway with lilo all seems fine. AndyRTR