Hi there, I think it's a great idea. There is a few 'blockbuster' programs that keeps me from running arch64 full time (Java and flash plugin and Skype). I find this solution much cleaner than having to maintain an complete 32-bit arch linux for chroot. Cheers, Nicholai Just my thought On 02:51 Mon 09 Oct , Robert Howard wrote:

Thanks. I'll probably make use of these packages in the near future.

On 10/8/06, Pierre Schmitz <[1]pierre@archlinux.de> wrote:

Hi all,

some days ago I had to reinstall my Arch, so I decieded to give arch64 a try. It`s working great and I think this will be the future of Arch.

But what I really missed is the ability to run 32bit-apps. I do not understand why the devs do not want this. But as I did not want to discuss about this, I just created some packages which allows me to start 32bit-apps within Arch64 (not using chroot etc.)

To make things very easy I did not set up a crosscompiler etc.. Instead I used the packages from arch32. All libs are installed to /opt/lib32, so it wont mess up your installation.

I set up a repository for testing:

[pierre] Server = [2]http://www.archlinux.de/~pierre/packages/x86_64

I got the following apps running: * Doom3 (this requires: lib32-glibc, lib32-libx11, lib32-libxau, lib32-libxdmcp, lib32-libxext, lib32-nvidia-utils, lib32-alsa-lib) * Enemy-Territory * Unreal Tournament * Google Earth * Opera (I only put it into the repository for demonstrating how it works)

What do you think about this?

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Yes, Skype uses QT. I gave the skype-beta-staticqt in AUR a try, but I got a: % skype % skype: error while loading shared libraries: libXmu.so.6: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 Should I somehow specify (in the PKGBUILD) that prefix is (sort of /opt/lib32) or how does is work? I looked into nspluginwrapper as well but I'm having troubles with the PKGBUILD. Some permission errors. I'll look further into that. Cheers, Nicholai On 16:32 Mon 09 Oct , Pierre Schmitz wrote:

Am Montag, 9. Oktober 2006 08:48 schrieb Nicholai Grønvald Hsu:

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I think it's a great idea. There is a few 'blockbuster' programs that keeps me from running arch64 full time (Java and flash plugin and Skype). I find this solution much cleaner than having to maintain an complete 32-bit arch linux for chroot.

I think Skype should run (it is qt, isn`t it?). I will test it. Java runs fine with Konqueror. I will try to get the nspluginwrapper running you can find in aur. Then flash schould not be a problem anymore. (and you would still have 64bit-browsers.)

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I got the shared one running. Just install lib32-qt (which has lib32-xmu as dependency)

Great, worked for me too. Nice idea with the lib32 meta package, makes life a lot simpler. Now back to nsdiswrapper, Cheers, -- Civilingeniørstuderende Nicholai Grønvald Hsu Danmarks Tekniske Universitet, IPL

Am Montag, 9. Oktober 2006 18:14 schrieb Nicholai Grønvald Hsu:

Great, worked for me too. Nice idea with the lib32 meta package, makes life a lot simpler.

Hmm, you mean the group "lib32"? I am not sure if it is right to put all libs in that group because people should not use "pacman -S lib32" ehich will install every lib. For skype you need lib32-qt and lib32-alsa-lib. I will clean up this things and try to reduce dependencies. "namcap" seems not to be allways right ;-) If you know any other application you would like to run on arch64, just tell me and I`ll see if I can manage it. (I tried Adobe Reader yesterday, but I didn`t get it runnig because it wants to load libs from /usr/lib)

Now back to nsdiswrapper,

This seems to be a bit more complicated, since it consists of one part which has to be compiled on arch32. Best would be two create two seperate packages. I`ll have a look at it. -- http://www.archlinux.de

Am Montag, 9. Oktober 2006 17:52 schrieb Varun Acharya:

As of now, there are no plans to make multilib an official part of arch64. However, I don't have any issue with it being a part of community.

Yes, putting it into community is a good idea. Perhaps I`ll try to become a TU (who wouldn`t trust me ;-))

We do however have to make sure that this does not interfere in anyway with 64bit libs. I haven't tried your PKGBUILD's yet, and ill give it a shot in a few days.

There should not be any problem. The libs are all installed under /opt/lib32 and this dir is just added to ldconfig. This should be quite clean. -- http://www.archlinux.de