[arch-proaudio] MIDI guitar Was: New package for dexed with standalone JACK client
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 15:12:51 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
since my master keyboard is the first generation DX7
Btw. I'm going to replace my MIDI master keyboard by a guitar. I don't know how good or bad something like a Godin xtSA Synth Access Trans Black guitar is compared to a normal guitar with this Roland GK-3 pickup. After watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VS0dc4aGJ0 my way to go is definitively a Roland GR-55, but since I'm a hardrock musician, I can't get friend with this Borg thingy, since the cable from the hex Roland GK-3 pickup to the bizarre thingy is in the way, when playing guitar. I try to find another solution, perhaps a Godin xtSA Synth Access Trans Black, if the type of guitar neck as well as the action should be ok. has got anybody on this list experiences with MIDIfied guitars? -- $ pacman -Q linux{,-rt-cornflower,-rt{,-securityink,-pussytoes}} \ | cut -d\ -f2 4.15.12-1 4.14.28_rt23-1 4.14.24_rt19-1 4.14.20_rt17-1 4.14.8_rt9-2
Am 25.03.2018 um 15:40 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
After watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VS0dc4aGJ0 my way to go is definitively a Roland GR-55, but since I'm a hardrock musician, I can't get friend with this Borg thingy, since the cable from the hex Roland GK-3 pickup to the bizarre thingy is in the way, when playing guitar.
has got anybody on this list experiences with MIDIfied guitars?
I've got a Fishman TriplePlay, which works very well (I use it with Yamaha Pacifica 611HFM), but it also has got that "Borg thingy" going on. The USB Wifi dongle shows up as a class compliant MIDI device, so it works well under Linux too. Obviously all the software that comes with it, is useless there. Chris
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 15:55:01 +0200, SpotlightKid wrote:
Am 25.03.2018 um 15:40 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
After watching https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VS0dc4aGJ0 my way to go is definitively a Roland GR-55, but since I'm a hardrock musician, I can't get friend with this Borg thingy, since the cable from the hex Roland GK-3 pickup to the bizarre thingy is in the way, when playing guitar.
has got anybody on this list experiences with MIDIfied guitars?
I've got a Fishman TriplePlay, which works very well (I use it with Yamaha Pacifica 611HFM), but it also has got that "Borg thingy" going on. The USB Wifi dongle shows up as a class compliant MIDI device, so it works well under Linux too. Obviously all the software that comes with it, is useless there.
Chris
The Fishman Triple Play is cheaper than the Roland solution, but it seems to be an USB and not a real MIDI solution, https://www.thomann.de/de/fishman_triple_play.htm?sid=7d1a6b0608513fa4546912... . I want to be able to play something like my Oberheim Matrix-1000 (it has got a special guitar synth mode), http://www.vintagesynth.com/oberheim/mat1000.php directly via MIDI, without the need to use a PC via USB. A computer used via USB would add MIDI jitter, but even if there should be no issue regarding jitter, I want hardware that doesn't require usage of a PC.
On Sun, 25 Mar 2018 15:55:01 +0200, SpotlightKid wrote:
I've got a Fishman TriplePlay, which works very well (I use it with Yamaha Pacifica 611HFM), but it also has got that "Borg thingy" going on. The USB Wifi dongle shows up as a class compliant MIDI device, so it works well under Linux too. Obviously all the software that comes with it, is useless there.
Chris
Hi Chris and all, I bought a Roland GR-55 and put the Roland GK-3 in revers position with this Borg thingy on my 80's pimped out Ibanez Blazer. Tracking is perfect! Unfortunately I had to do some irreversible changes, since the action of my pimped out Ibanez Blazer is that low, that the stings seat on the hex PU without doing irreversible changes. At the moment I fix some visual issues, so the wood glue still needs to dry, but I already tested it it, after I mounted the PU, before I started fixing the visual issues. In addition I ordered a Schecter Sun Valley Super Shredder FR S and a GK-KIT-GT3 for testing purpose. I like this guitar a lot, even while I'm not used to the guitar's neck and it's default hybrid string set. The factory's action and factory's octave's adjustment is perfect, assuming you stay with the default strings, at a standard tuning at 440 Hz. It would be possible to mount a Roland GK-3 without irreversible changes. However, I didn't mount a hex PU, but will send back the Schecter and the GK-KIT-GT3 to my dealer, for assembling it. While the Schecter much likely is the electric guitar with the best value-for-money ratio ever, the coasts for assembling the electronic undoes it. OTOH it's the only way to avoid the Borg thingy. Btw. I'm not that much annoyed by this Borg thingy. I dislike the external cable from the hex PU to the Borg thingy. Regards, Ralf
On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 22:03:55 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Yamaha Pacifica 611HFM
Wow, I didn't know this guitar. It's also not expensive. I wonder how good the factory's action and factory's octave's adjustment are. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIaAtO6OABE This guy starts with a Jimi Hendrix alike sounds and kind of playing. Too funny, since I'm much influenced by Jimi Hendrix myself. For that kind of sound and playing my Ibanez Blazer is much better than my new Schecter. Actually the sound of the Yamaha Pacifica is like an old Hendrix Start (IMO not very different as the author claims) + humbucker guitars, while the PUs of my Ibanez aren't that close to a Hendrix Strat, but at least the flow when playing my Ibanez is the same. When playing the Schecter, it's a cleaner, less emotional flow and likely just a 80's until today modern heavy guitar sound. Unfortunately the Yamaha Pacifica 611HFM the guy in the video plays has got no whammy bar, but there are seemingly some available with a whammy bar.
Am 14.04.2018 um 22:49 schrieb Ralf Mardorf:
On Sat, 14 Apr 2018 22:03:55 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Yamaha Pacifica 611HFM
I didn't know this guitar. It's also not expensive. I wonder how good the factory's action and factory's octave's adjustment are.
Yamaha guitars are typically have a rather good factory setup (at least the ones in that price range and above). Mine was perfect from the start, but now I switched to a different string gauge and so have to make a few adjustments. I really like the P90 pickup on this guitar. I tried out a Yamaha Revsatr 520 recently, which has two P90 pickups (but these are custom made by/for Yamaha not Seymour Duncan) and is more in the vein of Les-Paul-style guiters and it also felt fantastic.
I first saw the Pacifica 611 at the Musikmesse a couple of years back and later that day Soren Anderson (together with Marco Mendoza) did a little gig there using this model, which was convinced my to seek it out in the shops. :) Anyway, back on topic, I'd like to transfer my Fishman triple play hex pickup to my Variax guitar, since it is a kind of cyborg guitar already :) but I would have to do some modifications to the pickguard for that. For my the USB-MIDI onyl conenction is not an issue, since I only play at home anyway. If I ever need to connect it to a DIN-MIDI only device directly, I'll just use a raspberry pi as the MIDI router. Cheers, Chris P.S. Maybe we should transfer this topic to the general linux audio mailing list?
On Sun, 15 Apr 2018 19:27:13 +0200, SpotlightKid wrote:
Anyway, back on topic, I'd like to transfer my Fishman triple play hex pickup to my Variax guitar, since it is a kind of cyborg guitar already :) but I would have to do some modifications to the pickguard for that. For my the USB-MIDI onyl conenction is not an issue, since I only play at home anyway. If I ever need to connect it to a DIN-MIDI only device directly, I'll just use a raspberry pi as the MIDI router.
Cheers, Chris
P.S. Maybe we should transfer this topic to the general linux audio mailing list?
Hi Chris :) there are Godin guitars with a hex piezo that could be used for Roland guitar synths, but those piezos seem to be less reliable for MIDI usage. Playing a Variax guitar with a hex piezo for modelling + a Fishman PU for MIDI usage seems to be ok, since you seemingly established one after the other, so you didn't pay for all at once. I suspect (or should I say I "hope"?;) that if we are able to pay for all of that at once, that the way I choose is a little bit better, since the Roland GR-55 provides both in one, modelling + perfect guitar synth tracking. Actually I only played the Roland synth directly, I didn't use MIDI out to e.g. play Linux's Yoshimi, or e.g. my Oberheim Matrix-1000 or e.g. my iPad's Sample Tank. I also had no time to really test the modelling skills of the Roland GR-55, but a briefly ten minutes tests surprised me. I dislike Guitarix and Co., but the Roland GR-55 modelling seems to to run a different race. It's an interesting topic. Perhaps we need to continue off-list, but I would like to keep in touch with you, to share all the pros and cons we experience by using our different ways of modelling and MIDI guitar usage. Regards, Ralf
Btw. I dislike to have LEDs on my guitars and I dislike that my new Schecter guitar has got two battery compartments, one for the active humbucker and another for the Sustainiac® thingy. I'm fine with a battery compartment for the Sustainiac, but IMO a passive humbucker could be as good as an active humbucker and the Roland synth LEDs are waste, pure annoynce. Any kind of external cable link/tubing connection and obscure light as shown by https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=english_au&rais=1&oiu=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.thr.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2F2015%2F06%2Fstartrek_main.jpg&sp=a739567c6270e168c142c9b24c54dd56 is not only redicoulous, but also the most likely potentially source of trouble.
Not to be the spoil sport here, but please use another mailing list for exchanging your favorite guitar setups. This is hardly Arch specific or software relevant. -- https://sleepmap.de
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David Runge
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Ralf Mardorf
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SpotlightKid