Hi guys, Tobias agreed to let me take over maintaining the udev package, and I have some ideas for changes I'd like to get everyone's comments on. Over the last few years udev has grown and distros have consolidated to the point where most distro's should be able to ship an unpatched version of udev. We are not as far away from upstream as we used to be, and we will still need to keep some patches due to backwards compatibility, but there is quite a lot we can get rid of. The aim is to simplify the maintainers job and benefit from all bug fixing happening upstream, this also means that we should file bug reports and push patches upstream rather than keeping our own rule files (to the extent it makes sense). Udev is very actively maintained with contributions coming from different distros, so this should be a benefit for everyone. In the five subsequent emails I'll outline the changes I'd like to implement. I cc'ed arch-dev-public on this email in case any interested parties are not on arch-projects, but I'll keep the rest of the discussion on arch-projects so we don't clog down peoples' inboxes :-) If anyone has any concern or suggestions pleas speak up :-) Cheers, Tom PS I just discovered that David Reisner is maintaining udev-vanilla in AUR which is almost exactly what I have in mind, so it might be worth checking out.