On Thu, 17 Jan 2019 at 17:15, Eli Schwartz <eschwartz@archlinux.org> wrote:
On 1/17/19 6:27 AM, Maarten de Vries wrote:
The commit you linked earlier[1], is that something that will find it's way into mainline devtools?
[1] https://github.com/eli-schwartz/devtools/commit/c0681c0ec0a93a4a4eaf9b2fd85c... Unlikely. Not that I'm opposed to it happening, it's just totally not worth my time to even try.
The last time I tried to submit a patch for devtools was here: https://git.archlinux.org/devtools.git/commit/?id=5b3c14454a9c1ec00a3ef11f3f...
This is when it was finally merged: https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-projects/2018-May/004897.html
It was only merged at that time, because despite my having contributed a patch months before which make makechrootpkg work *at all* with pacman 5.1 on the host system, no one was actually reading this mailing list who had commit rights for devtools.
Eventually, when pacman 5.1 was released, people started complaining in the private staff channel that they could no longer build packages, which is sort of awkward for the maintenance of the distribution, right? Anyway, I said "I have pending patches from months ago that were supposed to make this a non-issue", and I appealed directly to Allan in order to merge it, and he asked me for a commit id that I thought should be merged.
And this is the story of how I actually managed to get some changes into devtools. By hunting down someone on IRC *after* the emergency has already happened.
(Observant witnesses will note that there is another patch after that, also written by me. That doesn't count, as one of the devtools maintainers had something which bothered them enough to work on devtools, and asked about it in IRC, and I wrote the patch basically on request.)
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I have lots of changes I want to actually make practical use of on a personal level, and I *also* want to use modifications in order to build packages for an archlinux32 chroot. I'm well on the way to totally forking everything, and my changes are just going to get more significant. Attempting to upstream a collection of controversial as well as non-controversial changes, when my chances of even being heard in the first place are... dim... is not worth the time when I can simply sudo make install something that makes me happy and gets things done.
I see. In that case I'll stick with a fork for now. Thanks again for the feedback :) -- Maarten