Ok, So I was serious about the Java God thing... I just released Ensmer and EnsmerMail. I'm sure most of you have heard of it, I linked it here: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?p=74266#74266 with a PKGBUILD. Its a 3D interface that I want to take out the entire window manager scene with (sorry Phrakture mwahaha). No, seriously, its an experiment in three dimensional interactions to see if virtual reality can be used for normal apps and not just games. It can. I'd love to see some discussion on this project, I've put about 8 months into it and don't know of anybody having tested it. :-D EnsmerMail is, of course, 3D e-mail inside of Ensmer. Its pretty cool, IMHO, but needs work. Maybe when I get around to releasing 0.2 it will actually be useable! For now its just something to play with for those of us who have an ISP e-mail account that we never use because we expect to be changing ISPs on a regular basis. Or something like that. It can connect to pop and smtp on yahoo too if you want to play with it. ;-) On a more personal note, completing this project puts me in a position where I can call myself "graduated". Soon I will have a BSc in Computing and Information Systems. How very droll. Dusty