[arch-releng] pacman-init problems

Have recently added haveged & pacman-init [daemons], both seem to start up ok. But keys are not loaded. I have to re-run pacman-key --init and pacman-key --populate archlinux post install. Have made sure pacman-init is in rc.d and haveged is running. Even added full paths to pacman-key commands without any luck. Wondering if anyone else is having the same problem? MrG