[arch-releng] A question about the ArchIso system
Hi all. I was curious how the Archiso system got started? You release-team folks must enjoy making new releases. Do you folks start the process as soon as a "official release" is made from the Arch repository? I know the general process, thanks to Dieter. What I am so curious about is if anything can be done (while not a developer) I am able, to test various things-and although most of it occurs in a VM, I am able to report specific feedback. Is it testers that the Arch-release team lacks to make the process a bit easier? What I'd like to do is see how I might be ble to help you folks out. No, I don't have any hardware to give you folks-I'm not giving you my Windows laptop to Arch with. :) I could give it to you, but nah. :D Even though the machine is an Intel 2 core duel processor at 2.80GHZ, 4GB of RAM, 64-bit ready, 64KB primary cache, USB2, with an Intel WiFi link 5100 AGN wireless card, and such. It is, a wonderful box. But like I mentioned, sorry-I'm using it presently, and I'm not ready yet to give it up. But if it's testers that you lack, then I might be able to help. I'm also good at looking for typos in documentation and reporting them-and could do those as bugs. :) Even typos are bugs if you ask me. :) While not software bugs, of course. Another good question is what system does the Arch Linux team have in place to insure that Arch will boot on any machine? Hardware is so widely differing between so many PCs, and so on. How do you know if Arch will run on a given machine in general? That's an interesting one. Hope ou folks have a great day, and thanks for the release! Please keep up the great work on your ArchIso system Dieter, as it appears that you lead that effort. Thanks to you, your efforts in ArchIso, including Thomases efforts to fix things with it, have enabled us TalkingArch Users to role our own snapshots thanks to ArchIso-git, so please keep up the work on that! Dieter: I suggest that you deserve a break. Get back to the project you have been neglecting for a while. Stop letting projects falling behind-stop getting worse with life, :). Let Thomas take over Aaron's tasks for a while, I'm sure Aaron himself needs a break too, what with publishing so many ArchLinux news entries, and speaking of that, Hey! Aaron, where is the next edition of the Arch Linux magazine anyways? Thought that you released those things each month? :D Don't forget to announce the next official snapshot release of Arch. Though if users wished to build there own Iso images of Arch Dieter, couldn't they do so without needing to wait for you folks, and just pull in AIF, and other various packages? If Archiso does indeed take a snapshot of the repo as it is, perhaps it pulls in AIF, no matter what version that's at. If you ask me, you Arch-release folks and kernel devs should take a break for the next 1 thousand years! LOL I am kidding-I know that can't happen. :) And Dieter, please don't quit the Arch project. I was teasing you about your personal issues with regards to niglecting projects, though I was serious though, take a break. :) Archiso should not be too hard for others to assist you on-Thomas himself has proven it, and hasn't Chris Brannon done some work on that as well? Hey Chris, if you read this, why not take over Archiso for the next 500 years! LOL just kidding buddy! Have fun, and happy Arch-development to all. Regards, --Keith P.s. Please send my comments to the kernel developers about taking that crazy break I suggested-I'd love to see there reactions to this funny message. Hope you folks get a huge laugh (more than one hopefully.)
On Wed, 19 May 2010 00:54:10 -0400 "Keith Hinton" <keithint1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you folks start the process as soon as a "official release" is made from the Arch repository?
I usually take a while off after a release ;)
I know the general process, thanks to Dieter. What I am so curious about is if anything can be done (while not a developer) I am able, to test various things-and although most of it occurs in a VM, I am able to report specific feedback. Is it testers that the Arch-release team lacks to make the process a bit easier?
yes. testers and people who fix bugs and improve things. in both archiso and aif.
Another good question is what system does the Arch Linux team have in place to insure that Arch will boot on any machine?
we don't ensure anything. we handle reported problems in a "best effort" way.
Please keep up the great work on your ArchIso system Dieter, as it appears that you lead that effort. Thanks to you, your efforts in ArchIso, including Thomases efforts to fix things with it, have enabled us TalkingArch Users to role our own snapshots thanks to ArchIso-git, so please keep up the work on that!
I don't know much about archiso. I've been lucky to get great help from the community (mostly Gerardo) and sometimes a dev like Thomas, because no one else currently has time for it.
Though if users wished to build there own Iso images of Arch Dieter, couldn't they do so without needing to wait for you folks, and just pull in AIF, and other various packages? If Archiso does indeed take a snapshot of the repo as it is, perhaps it pulls in AIF, no matter what version that's at.
yes. you can make your own images with archiso. Dieter
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Dieter Plaetinck
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Keith Hinton