Sorry then. But it still means ntp is available during the installation process (i.e. ntpdate is in the PATH) but I can't install it on the "destination" system, right? (if it's the case, how can I do it (with the automatic procedure) ?) Thanks Charles Le 18/05/2011 17:35, Dieter Plaetinck a écrit :

On Wed, 18 May 2011 15:55:45 +0200 Charles<ce@vejnar.org> wrote:

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Hi,

I know that there were discussions about the size of the installation image but I would like to see the ntp package included in core (i.e. in the installation media at least).

Why? Because NFS is and NFS needs synchronized clocks. I am using Arch in a cluster and other services (like authorization service) need it. When you install a bunch of machine, there are not necessarily synchronized and it makes the installation process more complicated (packages that need the synchronization like NFS can't be activated before ntp is installed after the system install it-self). Also, this package is only 448K.

Are you convinced? Who and how are decided this kind of things?

Thanks

Charles

ntp should not go into core because it does not belong in core. ntp should be included on the images, and it already is... and has been for a looooong time. http://projects.archlinux.org/archiso.git/tree/configs/syslinux-iso/packages... http://projects.archlinux.org/archiso.git/tree/configs/syslinux-iso/packages...

Dieter