[arch-releng] does anyone ever use the font selection dialog in "km"?
On the release media, with 'km' you can change your keyboard layout and font. I personally always skip the font selection. What's the point? Does anyone really use/need this? Dieter
Le 27/08/2010 11:14, Dieter Plaetinck a écrit :
On the release media, with 'km' you can change your keyboard layout and font. I personally always skip the font selection. What's the point? Does anyone really use/need this?
Dieter I NEVER use this font selection.... Fred
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:14:42 +0200 Dieter Plaetinck <dieter@plaetinck.be> wrote:
On the release media, with 'km' you can change your keyboard layout and font. I personally always skip the font selection. What's the point? Does anyone really use/need this?
Dieter
I use it quite often when I have to do a new debug installation at my thinclient, as it uses my TV as monitor, I guess other people using alternative monitors do the same as the default font is not always the best on these machines. -- Jabber: atsutane@freethoughts.de Blog: http://atsutane.freethoughts.de/ Key: 295AFBF4 FP: 39F8 80E5 0E49 A4D1 1341 E8F9 39E4 F17F 295A FBF4
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:14, Dieter Plaetinck <dieter@plaetinck.be> wrote:
On the release media, with 'km' you can change your keyboard layout and font. I personally always skip the font selection. What's the point? Does anyone really use/need this?
This is needed if you want be able to see non-latin characters you can type with non-latin keyboard layout. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:39:16 +0300 Roman Kyrylych <roman.kyrylych@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:14, Dieter Plaetinck <dieter@plaetinck.be> wrote:
On the release media, with 'km' you can change your keyboard layout and font. I personally always skip the font selection. What's the point? Does anyone really use/need this?
This is needed if you want be able to see non-latin characters you can type with non-latin keyboard layout.
Hmm ok. maybe we could use a font by default that supports many different characters, then i could do font changing with a separate command because 99% of the people hits 'skip' anyway, but i'm gonna keep it simple and keep it as it is. Dieter
Am Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:23:50 +0200 schrieb Dieter Plaetinck <dieter@plaetinck.be>:
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:39:16 +0300 Roman Kyrylych <roman.kyrylych@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:14, Dieter Plaetinck <dieter@plaetinck.be> wrote:
On the release media, with 'km' you can change your keyboard layout and font. I personally always skip the font selection. What's the point? Does anyone really use/need this?
This is needed if you want be able to see non-latin characters you can type with non-latin keyboard layout.
Hmm ok. maybe we could use a font by default that supports many different characters, then i could do font changing with a separate command because 99% of the people hits 'skip' anyway, but i'm gonna keep it simple and keep it as it is.
The font selection is of course needed, because there are different keyboard layouts and different fonts in the world. I'm always using it. 99% of which people? How many people have you asked and where do they live? I guess if you ask only American people all of them are skipping the font selection. If you ask German people who need the German umlauts or Russian or Ukrainian people, I bet 99% or 100% of them are using it. It would be better and not less KISS to keep the font selection in km. In fact it would be less KISS if you would remove it. Heiko
Am 27.08.2010 20:32, schrieb Heiko Baums:
99% of which people? How many people have you asked and where do they live? I guess if you ask only American people all of them are skipping the font selection. If you ask German people who need the German umlauts or Russian or Ukrainian people, I bet 99% or 100% of them are using it.
Since when do umlauts need a special font? I never used anything but the built-in default font and always saw them. That said, I always skip the font selection, too.
Am Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:43:03 +0200 schrieb Thomas Bächler <thomas@archlinux.org>:
Since when do umlauts need a special font? I never used anything but the built-in default font and always saw them. That said, I always skip the font selection, too.
Ok, umlauts are in the default font. But I knew there was an issue with the default font. Admittedly it's not important for installation but the default font has no Euro sign. Because of this and because I need - of course not during the installation - a font with cyrillic support, because I've got a few files with cyrillic file names, I needed to search a font which supports all of this at one time. And there are not so many of them. Actually I found only two or three. Probably because I'm used to these fonts I automatically change the font in km, too. For installation the default font should be sufficient at least for people who are using only latin characters. Heiko
Am Sat, 28 Aug 2010 01:24:59 +0200 schrieb Heiko Baums <lists@baums-on-web.de>:
For installation the default font should be sufficient at least for people who are using only latin characters.
The font selection is also important for installation, because AIF sets KEYMAP and CONSOLEFONT in rc.conf automatically to the in km chosen keymap and font. So I still vote for keeping the font selection in km. For people who are satisfied with the default font it's only two keypresses to skip this part, everyone else would need to press more keys to run a separate font selection tool. And you would need to write and maintain two instead of only one tool. So what's more KISS? ;-) Heiko
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 20:32:35 +0200 Heiko Baums <lists@baums-on-web.de> wrote:
It would be better and not less KISS to keep the font selection in km. In fact it would be less KISS if you would remove it.
Heiko
That's what I said, i'm gonna keep it simple and keep it. And yes, I made up the 99% statistic :) Dieter
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Dieter Plaetinck
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