Hey, When Loui say he want "What I'd really like to see is people running their own AUR, either taking the code or reimplementing it and creating custom repos." just want to know what the main reason for that? what the advantage ? 2010/8/10 Ng Oon-Ee

On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 22:52 -0400, Loui Chang wrote:

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It would be really nice if I could have a partner to work on and administer the AUR with, but it seems that no one in the Arch community really has enough initiative or time or expertise. I even feel myself lacking in those. That or I'm doing a super fantastic job. :D

I do believe the 'fantastic job' factors in somewhat. I've never even thought about the underlying 'how the AUR works' question, since it 'just works' for me. Thanks.

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On Tue 10 Aug 2010 07:47 -0400, Denis Kobozev wrote:

On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Loui Chang wrote:

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What I'd really like to see is people running their own AUR, either taking the code or reimplementing it and creating custom repos. I'm not sure how realistic such a wish is.

I always thought that a centralized repository for user-submitted packages was one of Arch's main strengths. Correct me if I'm wrong - I haven't been using Arch that long - but people used to run custom repos before AUR was written.

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If your patches aren't pushed to the git repo then please send a follow-up email. It may just still be in my queue for review.

No, I think they're already in the repo.

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I understand your disappointment. It would be really nice if I could have a partner to work on and administer the AUR with, but it seems that no one in the Arch community really has enough initiative or time or expertise.

Let's say I'd like to be such a person. Would I have to prove my commitment first?

Of course. It's important that I trust that you will be a good caretaker. It would be nice if you could become a TU.

On Wed 11 Aug 2010 21:27 -0400, Denis Kobozev wrote:

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 8:10 PM, Loui Chang wrote:

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On Tue 10 Aug 2010 07:47 -0400, Denis Kobozev wrote:

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On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Loui Chang wrote:

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It would be really nice if I could have a partner to work on and administer the AUR with, but it seems that no one in the Arch community really has enough initiative or time or expertise.

Let's say I'd like to be such a person. Would I have to prove my commitment first?

Of course. It's important that I trust that you will be a good caretaker. It would be nice if you could become a TU.

Totally understandable, but I'm not at all interested in maintaining packages. That is, I think that the community is doing a good enough job already. I'm not really looking for any kind of special status, I just want to be able to give something back to Arch.

That's fine. I became a TU under the role of AUR dev/admin. I have very few packages. If you were to take up that role - it would be a special status in itself anyways. :D It would be important that you have communication with TUs and devs. As a TU you have a vote in the direction of the AUR. Now, there's a reason why I'd like to see more independent repo projects. So that the AUR isn't so tied down to one community's infrastructure. It could help foster innovation as well. Unfortunately, there hasn't been that much development there.

On Wed 11 Aug 2010 22:23 -0400, Denis Kobozev wrote:

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Loui Chang wrote:

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On Wed 11 Aug 2010 21:27 -0400, Denis Kobozev wrote:

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Totally understandable, but I'm not at all interested in maintaining packages.

That's fine. I became a TU under the role of AUR dev/admin. I have very few packages. If you were to take up that role - it would be a special status in itself anyways. :D It would be important that you have communication with TUs and devs. As a TU you have a vote in the direction of the AUR.

I guess I should read up about TUs, what their responsibilities are and how does one become a TU.

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Now, there's a reason why I'd like to see more independent repo projects. So that the AUR isn't so tied down to one community's infrastructure. It could help foster innovation as well. Unfortunately, there hasn't been that much development there.

Have you ever shared this vision with TUs and devs? What did they think?

I have discussed it a little, but it's really up to the community to implement and use these things. TUs and devs have their own systems already.