Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 22:25:34 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae <allan@archlinux.org>:
Really, cars will start flying if we just tell the manufactures it is so? Because I have been waiting for that for a long time...
Do you always compare apples and oranges?
But what actually makes you think that you can expect anything from the distro apart from whatever the developers decide?
I generally don't expect anything. And I really respect the voluntary work. And I guess you haven't read many/any overbearing claims from me. But I expect from a developer that he doesn't remove popular packages inconsiderately from the repos. (Otherwise don't call Arch Linux a binary distro.) I expect from a developer that he uses his brain. Sorry for this wording. And I expect from a developer that he isn't arrogant and ignorant to users and that he listens to the user's opinion and respects their opinions.
Just because people use the distribution does not mean their opinions count for anything. In fact, the opinions of >99% of the users of this distro do not count for anything because they contribute nothing towards the distribution.
Have you thought of people who are not able to program or to write documentations or the like? Have you thought of people who just use their computers as an electronic typewriter or for looking for e-mails etc.? Do you really expect every usual computer user to learn a programming language? Btw., I'm already maintaining some AUR packages, worked on a wiki page for one of these packages. So don't tell me I wouldn't contribute anything.
Now, if someone wants to pay me and others to develop the distro, then their opinions will count. Otherwise, I am "working" for free and so I am king of what I decide to do.
You may decide what to do. But you should take the user's opinions or wishes into account.
Slightly exaggerated. But perhaps we do need that to keep people from forming such unfounded ideas about their opinions counting towards anything around here.
Really, these are not unfounded ideas. And you and some other devs (thankfully not all of them) should reflect about your ignorance. Heiko