On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 18:28 +0100, Philipp Überbacher wrote:
Excerpts from Ng Oon-Ee's message of 2010-11-16 17:13:47 +0100:
This thread started with the assertion that 'many important' packages are getting moved to the AUR. I believe this assertion to be false, as, obviously, do the devs. Historically from reading [arch-dev-public] the devs have been careful to continue maintaining packages none of them use if its seen as crucial to a large majority of users. None of the packages being moved fit these criteria. At all.
I see your point. I looked through the [extra] -> [] list yesterday or so and was a bit shocked at first until I saw that most of the packages I considered important would be maintained in community.
However, what I tried to point out is what would happen if a binary -> source trend develops.
No danger of that happening here. The devs use Arch, why would they move out stuff they consider important? And between them, what they consider important is probably almost everything in a 'base' install for the big distros (Ubuntu, Fedora etc.), because importance also depends on user-base. Higher user-base means its more likely a dev uses it =).
One other thing: The lists are based on orphans. My impression was that it's common practice among developers to adopt -> update -> orphan. Based on this I wonder whether it's sensible to create lists of removal candidates based on orphans.
I think that's only common practice for packages where noone really wants them, the initial dev has left/become inactive, so its in a state of limbo, but when devs have the time they look at the 'out-of-date' flag and help out.