On 09/16/17 at 08:19pm, brent s. wrote:
On 09/16/2017 07:52 PM, David Phillips wrote:
On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 02:19:09PM +0200, LoneVVolf wrote:
Hi,
I do have the impression that the number of aur comments about pacakges not building unless foo is installed has gone up. Very often foo turns out to be part of base-devel or multilib-devel.
Answering that is easy, by linking to main AUR wiki page that clearly states base-devel is assumed to be installed when building aur packages. That part appears to be overlooked often though and results in unnecessary clutter in aur comments.
Perhaps we could put base-devel group in makedepends of aur pacakages ? Lib32-* / multilib packages could list both multilib-devel and base-devel.
Lone_Wolf
I can see where you're coming from.
I have to be stubborn. Arch assumes some sort of sensible working brain of its users. Users building software that haven't installed things for building software… it makes me concerned for the community.
David
At the risk of coming off as a little BOFH-y, I've been in this situation before (where some users CBA to read[0]) and it makes me want to write something that will:
1.) check the comments sections for new comments on my packages, 2.) parse those comments for pasted error messages that would be caused by not-installed (base|multilib)-devel 3.) follow to the comment author's AUR profile, and grab contact info from their email address/PGP key FPR/IRC nick/whichever it finds, and 4.) emails/PMs them a link to [0].
Now, I don't see a Terms of Service for the AUR, but if there's demand for this from other AUR package maintainers and nobody sees any obvious ethical flaws with this, I'd be glad to make this my next project and share with other maintainers.
We can automate everything else, why shouldn't we automate RTFMs?
I sincerely don't believe that this will have the right affect, it will be treated as spam. Maybe we should start advocating to use extra-$arch-build for building AUR packages, since that contains base-devel :-). This is probably also what Debian does I guess or does every package implictly depend on 'build-essential'. -- Jelle van der Waa