On 2018-01-21 10:04 +0100 Lukas Fleischer via aur-general wrote:
So you suggest to remove the first part of the condition (before the "OR") altogether?
I made no such suggestion. With the current bylaws, any 2 TUs can start a regular removal process for any reason. This suffices to remove TUs who aren't "doing enough" according to the majority of other TUs. The only difference from the special removal process is a few more days and a higher quorum. The current bylaws are explicit and fine as they are. There is no need to change them. A TU who still shows signs of recent online activity should be given the full discussion period of a regular removal process to offer an explanation or resignation. After all, all TUs have contributed to this community and were recruited due to qualities that we recognized in them at the time of their application. A few extra days to hear their them out before kicking them out is a costless courtesy. Unless they are preventing quorum from being established, there is absolutely no harm nor pressing need to speed up the process. Just to be clear, I support the proposed removals given the cited inactivity, and I agree that doing nothing other than vote for over a year is not the intended mission of a TU. The silence from both during the discussion period is also strange given that they still log in to vote (vote timers?). And again, the intention of the current bylaws was not to disregard voting as an activity. The first part was to speed up the process for TUs who show no visible online activity (i.e. TUs who have abandoned Arch completely, for whatever reason), and the second part was to remove those who prevent the establishment of quorum. A TU who votes is clearly still logging in to his or her account and not preventing quorum. So yeah, a TU who does nothing but vote for over a year should be removed, but by a regular removal process, which the bylaws already handle. Btw, we discussed this together over 4 years ago and we were in agreement then about both the intention and the formulation. Here's a message in which you clearly agreed with this intention: https://lists.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2013-August/024783.html You later approved my patch. Regards, Xyne