Hi, I am not going to respond to everything in this email it's way tooo long. But CC'ing zoorat/MarsSeed as they are discussed here. On 15/11/2023 11:28, 7Ji wrote:
My opinion on this first: I'm not against his intention to clean AUR. I'm against using some self-written scripts to mass-file requests to certain packages just based on t heir traits, like keywords, names, or whatever. I'm also against doing so by hand, which is basically using yourself as a request machine.
Agreed.
I think most of us would agree that every request, no matter they're for orphan, merge, or deletion, need to be thought carefully and sent with details associated close ly with it. And blindly filing them just adds burden to PMs as this leaves research to be done to PMs.
This has been the case for half a year now?
The direct reason I want to post this is reading following requests: PRQ#51267[1], PRQ#51269[2], PRQ#51270[3] and PRQ#51271[4], these affects armcl-opencl[5], arm-linux -gnueabihf-armcl-neon[6], aarch64-linux-gnu-armcl-opencl+neon[7] and aarch64-linux-gnu-armcl-neon[8] accordingly. <SNIP> This is not right. This, an automated request filing process, should not be the way a user files their package requests. If an automated process just catches all packag es with some traits and filing requests is acceptable, then why is a user needed in the process at all? The user account is just like an API key for a bot program in that case. And if doing so is acceptable, why not just give the script or whatever tech behind the automated process to PMs so they can even save the time needed to check requests list?
I cannot comment on if these packages should go or not but skimming through the thousands of requests we have there are several categories of request: * Deletion request because the source is gone * Deleting unneeded libs because nothing in the AUR uses it Leaving packages in the AUR which have no source isn't helping anyone, "unneeeded libraries" is a bit of a problematic as they could be useful you just don't know. However AUR Requests can only be handled one by one so going through the requests is a painful task and discouraging as there are currently 59 pages to go through. Getting this automated in AURWeb itself would be a lot more helpful then filling ~ 50k deletion requests. Filling this amount of requests only leads to a burnout of the AUR Staff trying to get a hold of the requests situation. So I would like to kinda ask Marsseed/Zoorat to stop filling requests until we can get a hold on the massive backlog of open requests. Thanks in advance, Jelle