On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 02:23:54PM +0000, Xyne wrote:
On 2013-08-07 14:30 +0200 Florian Pritz wrote:
On 07.08.2013 13:33, Xyne wrote:
I find this annoying. I have heard on several occasions that a lot of relevant discussion as well as shit-talking takes place on that channel. Sometimes even important decisions are made there.
I like IRC because it allows you to decide on a basic direction. Of course everything should still be sent to the mailing list for the real discussion, but eliminating pointless stuff first seems like a good idea to me.
Please point out when something has only been discussed on IRC and then presented here as a final decision. This really shouldn't happen.
I didn't mean to imply that IRC is altogether bad. I'm sure that discussing things in real-time can be much more productive, especially in the initial stages of something. As long as the important stuff ends up on this list then it's fine. My point is simply it should not act as a channel for an inner circle.
I didn't say that final decisions were presented here based on IRC discussion, nor can I definitely point to any such case. I do, however, seem to recall that one of the AUR cleanup bots was launched after an IRC decision and I think that decision was later rebuked, but that's beside my point and I don't feel like scouring the archives for the thread, if it even exists.
Keenerd launched his bot before he was even a TU. His decision to do so made him reconsider his application for the cooldown period before re-applying. If he spoke to anyone about it on IRC it was with me over private messages. There was zero involvement from any Arch associated channel. I'm not aware of any other cleanup bots, but please correct me if I'm wrong here.