Thank you for bringing this up. Current guidelines for packages using prebuilt binaries, which are added in 2019 [1], are indeed unclear about Java packages. Literally, there is no rule about whether such Java packages should use a package name with "-bin" suffix or not. I propose to require the "-bin" suffix for new Java package using prebuilt binaries while allow existing packages without the "-bin" suffix (i.e., no need to submit deletion/merge requests for them). A modified rule can be: * Packages that use '''prebuilt''' [[wikipedia:Deliverable|deliverables]], when the sources are available, must use the {{ic|-bin}} suffix. An exception to this is with [[Java package guidelines#Java packaging on Arch Linux|Java]], where new Java packages using prebuilt binaries must use the {{ic|-bin}} suffix, while existing such packages without the {{ic|-bin}} suffix are allowed. The AUR should not contain the binary tarball created by makepkg, nor should it contain the filelist. Any opinions? [1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php?diff=572792 Best, Chih-Hsuan Yen (yan12125) ---------- Forwarded message --------- 寄件者： Marcell Meszaros <marcell.meszaros@runbox.eu> Date: 2023年7月30日 週日 下午10:00 Subject: Re: [PRQ#42786] Deletion Request for autopsy-bin Rejected To: Chih-Hsuan Yen <yan12125@archlinux.org>, <aur-requests@lists.archlinux.org> Cc: <contact@lsferreira.net>
autopsy-bin is a better package name for a package built from binaries.
In that case, please kindly revise the AUR submission guidelines, because currently it explicitly mentions Java as an exception to the '-bin' name suffix requirement. [a] " * Packages that use prebuilt deliverables, when the sources are available, must use the -bin suffix. An exception to this is with Java. " [a]: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/AUR_submission_guidelines#Rules_of_submissi... On 30 July 2023 15:26:43 GMT+02:00, Chih-Hsuan Yen <yan12125@archlinux.org> wrote:
Marcell Meszaros <marcell.meszaros@runbox.eu> 於 2023年7月30日 週日 下午6:20寫道：
@yan12125, why did you reject the deletion request for this duplicate?
AUR/autopsy also uses the precompiled Java bytecode as source.
So the two packages are truly duplicates, the only difference is that autopsy-bin is 1 year older and flagged OOD for that period.
On 30 July 2023 11:05:20 GMT+02:00, notify@aur.archlinux.org wrote:
Request #42786 has been Rejected by yan12125 [1]:
This is a java application so the suffix '-bin' is not necessary anyway.
Java packages can be either built from sources or binaries as well.
autopsy-bin is a better package name for a package built from binaries. Therefore, orphaning and updating autospy-bin is better than deleting autospy-bin. After that, autospy can be merged into autospy-bin in case it is not changed to be built from sources.
Best,
Chih-Hsuan Yen (yan12125)