On Thu, Jul 31, 2025 at 9:32 AM Robin Candau <antiz@archlinux.org> wrote:
On 7/31/25 9:14 AM, Tomaz Canabrava wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jul 2025 at 23:37 Frederik Schwan <freswa@archlinux.org <mailto:freswa@archlinux.org>> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 30, 2025 at 06:27:04PM -0300, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: > Excerpts from Tomaz Canabrava's message of julho 30, 2025 9:09 am: > > > > I confirm that I'm sponsoring Martin and that I'll be his mentor. This > > message is signed with my gpg key. > > > > Hi All, > > Now that Tomaz has sent the signed email, the official discussion period started. But I'm glad some discussion is already happening and Martin already accepted some of suggestions. > > Regards, > Giancarlo Razzolini
Hi Giancarlo, as per our TU bylaws [0] one must find two sponsoring _TUs_:
> In order to become a TU, one must first find two sponsoring TUs following the guidelines outlined below, and arrange privately with them to announce their candidacy on the aur-general mailing list.
But as of [1] you resigned as TU. Therefore it appears to me that you cannot sponsor Martin.
Best regards, Frederik
[0] https://github.com/archlinux/tu-bylaws/blob/master/tu- bylaws.adoc <https://github.com/archlinux/tu-bylaws/blob/master/tu- bylaws.adoc> [1] https://lists.archlinux.org/archives/list/aur- general@lists.archlinux.org/message/ FETRJKGSYJANXVKMNED6QROO56LLUMKM/ <https://lists.archlinux.org/ archives/list/aur-general@lists.archlinux.org/message/ FETRJKGSYJANXVKMNED6QROO56LLUMKM/>
hello,
i disagree with the premisses states here, the document says that for addition of a TU one must find two TUs to sponsor,
But we are not adding a TU, but a Package Maintainer. Gian is a package maintainer. so am I.
best, tomaz
Hi,
The "TU / Trusted User" role is the old name for the current "PM / Package Maintainer" one. See the related RFC for the rename of the role [1]. The bylaws has been updated accordingly [2][3].
Technically speaking, if Giancarlo resigned as a TU, he is defacto not a package maintainer (as TU is simply the previous name of the current PM role).
I do agree that the rename was a big thing but I feel that this is not correct - the TU role and the Package Maintainer roles are slightly different. if you look at the Package Maintainers list, Gian is still there, and Gian still packages things that goes directly to extra and core, he wouldn't be able to do that if he was not a Package Maintainer. other than that, Gian also sponsored people (me included) after he resigned as TU, and that was not a problem.
Although, I personally have no strong feeling about this. I just wanted to clarify the eventual TU / PM roles confusion.
[1] https://rfc.archlinux.page/0007-rename-trusted-user-role/ [2]
https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/package-maintainer-bylaws/-/merge_req... [3] https://package-maintainer-bylaws.aur.archlinux.org/
-- Regards, Robin Candau / Antiz