Hi Leonidas, Thank you for chiming in.
I am curious to understand if you see a problem with you opening thousands of requests in AUR.
On my side, I don't see any problem with it. But I definitely don't intend to overburden the Arch/AUR staff. I just don't really have insight into what amount is overburdening and what is manageable.
We clearly stated in many occasions this is not sustainable from our side (Package Maintainers) for various reasons and we suggesting different ways for finding a solution.
Yes, and I can appreciate your and your fellow PM's side in this. But frankly, this has been, again, not really a usable feedback for me, because it just seemed arbitrary. Last year, Morten Linderud also told me that my requests are badly worded copy-pastes with many errors, which initially made me revoke many outstanding requests of mine. But then throughout some months mostly @muflone has accepted most of the remaining ones. So I did not see why my requests were deemed so bad, it felt unfair. In the end, that kind of feedback lost its credibility in my eyes. But again, I absolutely value fair criticism and usable feedback, and again, I do not want to cause undue burden on anyone. But clearly some benchmark would be welcome by which I can judge what amount is fair and what is too much. Also, when it comes to PM's responding to requests, I am grateful for all of them who do that. But I also feel that the community, myself included (if I still qualify), is let down by roughly 50-55 Package Maintainers who never seem to engage in this kind of, shall we say, package maintainers' activity. And then it comes to some PM's just processing new requests and not old ones, and it's just resulted in more old backlog, which for the past 6 months when I was actively paying attention, were almost single-handedly dealt with by @muflone again. I do see that having to process this many request is a burden, but why is it that most of the others don't participate in that? What is a pain point of mine is that it seems I am singled out compared to some others who also file lots of very similar quality requests (though not thousands, but "just" hundreds), and they don't seem to he asked to back down, and also do not get such devastatingly negative feedback about the alleged quality of their submissions. And one more point to that: I believe it is fair to say that it would be a much more credible ask if it were @muflone who made it, because the workload he is taking on is huge. But when others make it who are doing negligible amount of request processing, it just makes me feel it's a bit hollow. I hope you can understand my subjective side in this topic. Thank you again for initiating a discussion with me. Please kindly advise what I shall do with my 2200+ outstanding requests. Should I just revoke them all, or should I try to prune their number down based on some aspect? Appreciate all your guidance and your valuable work, along with that of all other Arch/AUR developers/maintainers. Cheers, Marcell (MarsSeed) On 15 November 2023 17:58:19 GMT+01:00, Leonidas Spyropoulos <artafinde@archlinux.org> wrote:
Hi Marcell,
I'm not interested in continuing the flame / blame war so I will not response to the previous wall of text.
I am curious to understand if you see a problem with you opening thousands of requests in AUR. We clearly stated in many occasions this is not sustainable from our side (Package Maintainers) for various reasons and we suggesting different ways for finding a solution.
On 15/11/2023 16:35, Marcell Meszaros wrote:
I myself also don't oppose ARM packages, but their existence is not supported well by current AURweb, which AFAIK does not support architecture-specific dependency lookup in its webrequest interface, nor does AURweb itself.
Here's a good example. Instead of opening requests for these packages, raise a feature request in AURweb to implement such filters in UI / API.
Work _with_ the community.
Cheers,