On 2013-08-07 11:26, Daniel Micay wrote:
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Lukas Fleischer <archlinux@cryptocrack.de> wrote:
On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 02:10:45PM +0000, Xyne wrote:
Hi,
I want to discuss our notions of "activity". According to the current bylaws, [...]
This discussion starts to get messy. Now there are three different threads discussing the same thing, basically. Could we please concentrate on the current proposal and the related discussion before initiating a new one?
Also, you still didn't comment on the suggestion to remove the activity part from the quorum computation altogether. Please read Sébastien's reply (and follow-ups) to my proposal. The quorum is meant to ensure that a result is representative. If 60% of all TUs are inactive, we can currently establish a quorum of 100%. This does not seem right to me. Also, dropping the activity restriction makes things a lot easier, so this gets a +2 from me...
A simple majority of 51% isn't a consensus among the team, regardless of how many people voted. I don't think proposals should pass at all when nearly half of us object.
Rather than the quorum, we could require a super-majority (60%, 70%) of the trusted users to vote YES and handle inactivity removals separately.
If 8 people are on vacation, it's not a good time to be passing proposals. I'm (obviously) not a TU, so I know my thoughts probably don't count for much, but there is one thing I'd like to point out. Abstentions and non-votes are not the same as "no votes". Perhaps, instead of a super majority, requiring no less than a certain number of no votes would be a good idea. For instance, allowing 50%+1 to pass so long as there are no more than 33% would be a fairly functional model. The other possibility, of course, would be to define all non-votes and abstentions as "no" votes (save non-votes/abstentions by inactive TUs). This is a much stricter system but I don't believe accurately represents vote casts.
Again, my word probably doesn't mean that much, but I have some strong opinions about how voting should be done (student of political science), so I figured it might be worth throwing something out there. All the best, -Sam