Re: [aur-general] TU Application
Excerpts from Allan McRae's message of Fri Jul 03 00:40:57 -0400 2009:
I'm not longer a Trusted User so I do not get a vote in this anymore, but knowing how this works I would suggest that your application is coming too soon.
Yeah, I'm not an anybody, but I really feel this way too from reading the mailing lists. Though, I like Nathan's overall attitude. He doesn't seem ready skill-wise, but if he keeps up this interest and desire to help people, the ability will come. I might also suggest to Nathan that he try to improve his grammar/spelling/capitalization/formatting. Doing these things properly will get you further in open source software communities. Cheers. -- Andrei Thorp, Developer: Xandros Corp. (http://www.xandros.com)
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 09:21, Andrei Thorp<garoth@gmail.com> wrote:
Excerpts from Allan McRae's message of Fri Jul 03 00:40:57 -0400 2009:
I'm not longer a Trusted User so I do not get a vote in this anymore, but knowing how this works I would suggest that your application is coming too soon.
Yeah, I'm not an anybody, but I really feel this way too from reading the mailing lists.
Though, I like Nathan's overall attitude. He doesn't seem ready skill-wise, but if he keeps up this interest and desire to help people, the ability will come. I agree with all the above points here
I might also suggest to Nathan that he try to improve his grammar/spelling/capitalization/formatting. Doing these things properly will get you further in open source software communities. Also agreed. Text is the only way we have to get to know you, so if you put out an image of being sloppy, careless, and/or ignorant (no offense, just saying that it causes that perception), it has an impact on how people think of you. The general thinking is that if you're not willing to put in the effort to make your thoughts understandable, we shouldn't care about the content of them. Also it makes it genuinely hard sometimes for people (especially non-native speakers of English, of which we have many in Arch) to understand you. Again, I'm not trying to put you down, just offering constructive criticism.
Keep working on expanding your skills and helping out people, and I'm sure that if you try again in a few months (or however long), we'd love to have you. People with your enthusiasm are really helpful, you just need to get your skill up to the same level. :)
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Andrei Thorp<garoth@gmail.com> wrote:
I might also suggest to Nathan that he try to improve his grammar/spelling/capitalization/formatting. Doing these things properly will get you further in open source software communities.
This has nothing to do with open source, but I completely agree. Besides when someone does not make any efforts writing, the reader has to do much more efforts parsing and understanding the message, and will very likely just skip/ignore it. An even better (sigh) example : http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/pacman-dev/2009-July/008887.html
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:12:36 +0200 Xavier <shiningxc@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Andrei Thorp<garoth@gmail.com> wrote:
I might also suggest to Nathan that he try to improve his grammar/spelling/capitalization/formatting. Doing these things properly will get you further in open source software communities.
This has nothing to do with open source, but I completely agree. Besides when someone does not make any efforts writing, the reader has to do much more efforts parsing and understanding the message, and will very likely just skip/ignore it.
An even better (sigh) example : http://www.archlinux.org/pipermail/pacman-dev/2009-July/008887.html
That's actually a really bad (and rude) example. The author of that message begins by stating that he is not a native speaker and apologizes that his English language skills are not very good. This is completely different from a native speaker who is just too lazy to clean up his messages, which appears to be the case here. It's a matter of making the effort, which a non-native speaker obviously has. Getting back on topic, I agree with the previous replies that this application is a bit premature and that it should be withdrawn for now. I believe that the enthusiasm demonstrated by Nathan is promising but the considerable number of posts asking for help with packages just prior the application demonstrate that he is not quite ready to become a TU. There's also the matter of a sponsor which is needed for an official application. Nathan, your efforts to contribute to Arch are very much appreciated and I hope that you don't take this as any sort of rejection. The replies so far all indicate that it's more a "not yet" than a "no". Just give it some time and keep learning in the meanwhile. Try to keep the language in mind too... not bothering to add punctuations etc is like showing up at a party without a shower in old, worn-out underwear... it implies that you just don't care. Regards, Xyne
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