[aur-general] Policy on abandoned projects?
What is the policy with regard to projects that appear to have been abandoned? For instance, no matter what distribution I run, I find myself compiling spellutils for its excellent "newsbody" program, which I use in mutt to feed aspell only the body of the message instead of the full message (including quoted replies, headers, etc). However, for some time now the homepage of this project has been defunct, and the developer has been unreachable. The project does not have a sourceforge/github/etc location from which the source code can be retrieved, I was only able to find the source code myself thanks to a couple different source code archives, which I am not sure if I can rely on 100% to keep the source available. What can I do to get this project into the AUR? I have no problem writing a PKGBUILD, I just need to find an acceptable way of making the source available, and I'm not sure if there's a protocol for this that AUR package maintainers typically follow. Many thanks, -- -Erik "For me, it is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." --Carl Sagan
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 15:26, Erik Johnson <palehose@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the policy with regard to projects that appear to have been abandoned? For instance, no matter what distribution I run, I find myself compiling spellutils for its excellent "newsbody" program, which I use in mutt to feed aspell only the body of the message instead of the full message (including quoted replies, headers, etc). However, for some time now the homepage of this project has been defunct, and the developer has been unreachable. The project does not have a sourceforge/github/etc location from which the source code can be retrieved, I was only able to find the source code myself thanks to a couple different source code archives, which I am not sure if I can rely on 100% to keep the source available.
What can I do to get this project into the AUR? I have no problem writing a PKGBUILD, I just need to find an acceptable way of making the source available, and I'm not sure if there's a protocol for this that AUR package maintainers typically follow.
Many thanks,
--
-Erik
"For me, it is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." --Carl Sagan
Personally, I would say that for an AUR package, a < 100% reliable source is fine. However, what I've done for high-demand packages (like my bin32-wine when [extra] does not update quickly), is to talk to people and find someone who would be kind enough to host. Actually though, I think www.omploader.org works for PKGBUILDs. If it does, it is both fast and reliable. -- Ranguvar [Devin Cofer] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJLVN0dAAoJEHdXKOHe3MUTHfgQAIU3Zf9A4VtdEHeIq7V96+dd xH+dlYn5xcFdJI2ejec9QMFtUmo2SjZfYHGkMQNjgqhbS8OmrhbleiK25z8FwEHr 1HvS2cOZ5/2wyDKhgO0v2FKTuCUIRldErkcTtHJ4sW/QwDJpJTHImHenxZ6v0gDk DUqu2A2DwSmWNNV6OzfsyemHeQK3AwwkQhyjSkLL9QXpdjq1kz9eueObsb84CnGC KVeQ5GCqDNgpjzuf+a8NzhjDKpuUHqkkMlHexIeZ0gpK6xHHjxreVh24jYCJ9pZh 1MNlsDj3S1N1w1ixLR8WambepSPlGh2uH4Y/G2+1KshetVJHGlYrR0rMS16GC9UQ qnGJyXp6+R22ZL15B2XzCee9lSLRwNcJaGmuxYtBCDP5Gla3NLFoJUDyOCoKh7GY gncob4TJUuyvYfeHPJKEzUWkfTjG/jngnHiCVmGQMGsvj2qZCb4Fhhn8IkFyEdy5 yGSQn8PCsvoqwPMwHHdAOC3o5tirJyVTuVBb+q3yT7ScfbWubxxPNw0MsutQCdlj kE/Fj5JO9nJqmqZKkZCQggltvnK8P+ACVQEmPgWWTMNOEJ5moc+/ET4rseDAeQ8M IBZk8YLyt4BEMfpK0rdLRUHBw7i30CRA2hhs6xUoATm74ryIgE1ycx161cuGr4zp eBGEKYD79jPhU4pxRoyN =XGpl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-- -Erik "For me, it is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." --Carl Sagan On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 05:14:15PM -0500, Ranguvar wrote:
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On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 15:26, Erik Johnson <palehose@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the policy with regard to projects that appear to have been abandoned? For instance, no matter what distribution I run, I find myself compiling spellutils for its excellent "newsbody" program, which I use in mutt to feed aspell only the body of the message instead of the full message (including quoted replies, headers, etc). However, for some time now the homepage of this project has been defunct, and the developer has been unreachable. The project does not have a sourceforge/github/etc location from which the source code can be retrieved, I was only able to find the source code myself thanks to a couple different source code archives, which I am not sure if I can rely on 100% to keep the source available.
What can I do to get this project into the AUR? I have no problem writing a PKGBUILD, I just need to find an acceptable way of making the source available, and I'm not sure if there's a protocol for this that AUR package maintainers typically follow.
Many thanks,
--
-Erik
"For me, it is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." --Carl Sagan
Personally, I would say that for an AUR package, a < 100% reliable source is fine.
However, what I've done for high-demand packages (like my bin32-wine when [extra] does not update quickly), is to talk to people and find someone who would be kind enough to host.
Actually though, I think www.omploader.org works for PKGBUILDs. If it does, it is both fast and reliable.
Thanks. I'm working on the PKGBUILD right now. Is it necessary to include packages which are part of base or base-devel as makedepends? I didn't see any information about this in the PKGBUILD manpage.
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 17:46, Erik Johnson <palehose@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks. I'm working on the PKGBUILD right now. Is it necessary to include packages which are part of base or base-devel as makedepends? I didn't see any information about this in the PKGBUILD manpage.
Include [base] packages only if you want to (assumed you have them), and same for [base-deve] in makedepends -- if a [base-devel] is a full dep, though, include it there. -- Ranguvar [Devin Cofer] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJLVPY5AAoJEHdXKOHe3MUTw6QP/3KWkzmVwoSIsxPpHEYc45Hh IC1u0arPoZwTtEzcvBwcZoLvrzqHN4CWPJvkR3OQjdz/rlQlZP7y0O6B4GOWVG/m iOXimiTZsFiBlVqOc2IE1lk1TSHtysRl2/tHMpdi/HA83rQeHzooPAKVufIBZmEH ekpVfh8eqEtYOhG56h2sycnOh2W1f9DZg7BAIS/Ntk9QTmqUU/82FGth49935zZv +IwEBT7PV3M5UAcyru4MCYiSDsSDfw1qKDAqQLy7PGO9ZPvbUycV7dNGzNb19ZRD QFOuSwvzTNE1VUR38f4F57fGBUUghidIJY2NQdpH7qjIbm9TUDASRi5xuaJ+7tWp 74K7cqQ91XWGxPhPCykSp+9pMmDdM7kVq9nSZARiguDU+O13Gjga/JgJcgx71sqd 7lyT7Y2zVlgDFo48Fn8VstkFFdH79PJFOjuT9lhcElD9NQJAIBceJusiXvlC7Jmj X/yI4y1zzPlNTrLnwa5LOrDYoFFt8bOkDvZ1UvJH490RaBuVjTbiW9lK2XrBd8Rx D+FNguPYelpFXvFgg5r0EgroeyObgO+FTbd83nNIzEooEMiDVt3KeQOauZyeQb0c 0B9KoxIeEcPISCZ4ilpuXgMsbEOeKalwM9mESa39H7uYIDP4fLKuFozaTutqRFEx /b4h3UftxBqqW178b/2k =9jfH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 5:46 PM, Erik Johnson <palehose@gmail.com> wrote:
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-Erik
"For me, it is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." --Carl Sagan
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 05:14:15PM -0500, Ranguvar wrote:
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On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 15:26, Erik Johnson <palehose@gmail.com> wrote:
What is the policy with regard to projects that appear to have been abandoned? For instance, no matter what distribution I run, I find myself compiling spellutils for its excellent "newsbody" program, which I use in mutt to feed aspell only the body of the message instead of the full message (including quoted replies, headers, etc). However, for some time now the homepage of this project has been defunct, and the developer has been unreachable. The project does not have a sourceforge/github/etc location from which the source code can be retrieved, I was only able to find the source code myself thanks to a couple different source code archives, which I am not sure if I can rely on 100% to keep the source available.
What can I do to get this project into the AUR? I have no problem writing a PKGBUILD, I just need to find an acceptable way of making the source available, and I'm not sure if there's a protocol for this that AUR package maintainers typically follow.
Many thanks,
--
-Erik
"For me, it is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." --Carl Sagan
Personally, I would say that for an AUR package, a < 100% reliable source is fine.
However, what I've done for high-demand packages (like my bin32-wine when [extra] does not update quickly), is to talk to people and find someone who would be kind enough to host.
Actually though, I think www.omploader.org works for PKGBUILDs. If it does, it is both fast and reliable.
Thanks. I'm working on the PKGBUILD right now. Is it necessary to include packages which are part of base or base-devel as makedepends? I didn't see any information about this in the PKGBUILD manpage.
no
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Ranguvar <ranguvar@archlinux.us> wrote:
However, what I've done for high-demand packages (like my bin32-wine when [extra] does not update quickly), is to talk to people and find someone who would be kind enough to host.
Let me know if you would like a permanent host for the source code tarball. I can host it on http://cinderwick.ca somewhere for ya...
If anyone needs hosting for a popular package that has gone under, feel free to let me know. I'm already hosting a few, don't mind adding more to the list. On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Thayer Williams <thayerw@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Ranguvar <ranguvar@archlinux.us> wrote:
However, what I've done for high-demand packages (like my bin32-wine when [extra] does not update quickly), is to talk to people and find someone who would be kind enough to host.
Let me know if you would like a permanent host for the source code tarball. I can host it on http://cinderwick.ca somewhere for ya...
Thanks to both of you. For now I am using omploader as was suggested previously, if I have trouble with it then I will contact one of you. I submitted the package to the AUR a few hours ago, it can be found here: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33746 -- -Erik "For me, it is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring." --Carl Sagan On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 07:25:38PM -0600, member ghost1227 wrote:
If anyone needs hosting for a popular package that has gone under, feel free to let me know. I'm already hosting a few, don't mind adding more to the list.
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Thayer Williams <thayerw@gmail.com> wrote:
On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Ranguvar <ranguvar@archlinux.us> wrote:
However, what I've done for high-demand packages (like my bin32-wine when [extra] does not update quickly), is to talk to people and find someone who would be kind enough to host.
Let me know if you would like a permanent host for the source code tarball. I can host it on http://cinderwick.ca somewhere for ya...
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Eric Bélanger
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Thayer Williams