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Hello,

I was messing around with my fonts today and decided to get some new ones. There are several packages of apple fonts on the AUR but I had issues with some of the fonts not being recognised by LibreOffice (due to it seemingly being unable to read ttc - truetype font collection

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files) so I thought I'd fix that issue and bring the various font collections together into a single package for my own use, but I wondered if this sort of thing would be useful to others.

The pkgbuild is below. Let me know if I should upload this package.

Thanks.

# Maintainer: John Lane <archlinux at jelmail dot com> # Based on ttf-mac by Guten Ye (https://github.com/GutenYe/aur/tree/master/ttf-mac) # ttf-mac-fonts by Shanto (at hotmail.com) # macfonts by Erus

# This packages Apple font packs obtained from multiple # sources. Where the same font is in multiple packs, # this package will contain the one from the last pack # processed.

pkgname=ttf-apple pkgver=0 pkgrel=1 pkgdesc='A collection of Apple Mac/OS X TrueType fonts' arch=('any') url='http://www.apple.com/osx/' license=('custom') depends=('fontconfig') makedepends=('subversion' 'fondu' 'fontforge') conflicts=('ttf-mac-fonts' 'ttf-mac' 'macfonts') provides=('ttf-mac-fonts' 'ttf-mac' 'macfonts') install='install'

On 17/01/13 16:01, Daniel Wallace wrote: - source=(http://invisible-files.googlecode.com/files/ttf-mac-fonts.tar.gz

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http://ompldr.org/vNXFlNA)

md5sums=('4f84a9630c3c8faf1f4ba8ea075108bc' 'e185688cf54a2f2020a4bc071316b67b')

build() {

# font pack from https://macbuntu.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/macbuntu/Macbuntu/fonts svn co https://macbuntu.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/macbuntu/Macbuntu/fonts "$srcdir/macbunt u"

# font pack from http://invisible-files.googlecode.com/files/ttf-mac-fonts.tar.gz cd "$srcdir/ttf-mac-fonts" fondu -force *.dfont for ttc in *.ttc; do ttf=${ttc%.*}.ttf [[ -f $ttf ]] || FONTFORGE_LANGUAGE=ff fontforge -c

'Open($1);

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Generate($2)' $ttc $ttf done }

package() {

# font pack from http://ompldr.org/vNXFlNA cd "$srcdir/macfonts" install -d $pkgdir/usr/share/fonts/{TTF,Type1} install *.ttf $pkgdir/usr/share/fonts/TTF install *.PFB $pkgdir/usr/share/fonts/Type1

# font pack from https://macbuntu.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/macbuntu/Macbuntu/fonts cd "$srcdir/macbuntu" install -d $pkgdir/usr/share/fonts/{TTF,Type1} install gbk/*.ttf $pkgdir/usr/share/fonts/TTF install mac/*.ttf $pkgdir/usr/share/fonts/TTF install mac/*.pfb $pkgdir/usr/share/fonts/Type1

# font pack from http://invisible-files.googlecode.com/files/ttf-mac-fonts.tar.gz cd "$srcdir/ttf-mac-fonts" install -dm755 "$pkgdir/usr/share/fonts/TTF" install -m644 *.ttf *.ttc "$pkgdir/usr/share/fonts/TTF" } Don't just svn checkout, please follow the prototype in /usr/share/pacman/PKGBUILD-svn.proto from the abs package

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I've done that, thanks. It's interesting that it drives the version number. That doesn't strictly relate to the package as it's a collection of things from various places. Also curious how this would have worked had there been two svn checkouts (luckily only one of the 3 items in the package came from svn).

But anyway, I've updated my pkgbuild.

This will all be changed when pacman 4.1 finally gets tagged, where you will be able to include svn, git, hg, etc repositories in the source array - -- Sent from my Android Phone. Daniel Wallace Arch Linux Trusted User GTManfred -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: APG v1.0.8 iQFUBAEBCAA+BQJQ+F9QNxxEYW5pZWwgV2FsbGFjZSAoZ3RtYW5mcmVkKSA8ZGFu aWVsLndhbGxhY2VAZ2F0ZWNoLmVkdT4ACgkQX6XlVE8BDUjRgQgApHXoOkCcMJn4 WlbjtaPuRgfAp39NmySV+J1i+CDTyT6m3aIdVonX0iCmuxq7VvGTeagpfW/oXevd VHIdun2rs3u9k7/zSB5V3mUBJDE0bkE7z4Y7QsKEAxfGBNZAYFhH6KyWSf+1YGTf /3H6/vYV1V/4XezpQvtAAKFQCVkRhahFhBh1BYL8QziT7h/YmPT+NygD0loXEORR 4/JEEr8SP+j2mvpJ2s1nQZiwmvbG5Jil/rFrPYF6ganIQyaql8MebORe21XIIxPM Wss6OKivxuMOsij4iHtUVmha0Rr3CzgAR5SKMF1KkqoM8y8J56KR3auqtY88fp7q lLki6Ro2iw== =QJ7g -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

So one can easily pirate Apple fonts now? Nicely done!

-- Kirill Churin Jabber: reflexing@reflexing.ru

If this is a legal download I'm utmost interested in installing and trying this package.

On 01/19/2013 11:27 PM, Kirill Churin wrote:

No, it is not. It's illegal to redistribute Apple fonts, just like Microsoft fonts. I'm the maintainer of the ttf-ms-win8 and did some research on that. AUR package should not contain download links for such fonts, take a look how I did it for my package.

This package source links: http://ompldr.org/vNXFlNA — illegal http://invisible-**files.googlecode.com/files/**ttf-mac-fonts.tar.gzhttp://invisible-files.googlecode.com/files/ttf-mac-fonts.tar.gz — illegal https://macbuntu.svn.**sourceforge.net/svnroot/**macbuntu/Macbuntu/fontshttps://macbuntu.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/macbuntu/Macbuntu/fonts — illegal

On the other way, the approach of https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/tt/ttf-mac-fonts/PKGBUILD and https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/tt/ttf-mac/PKGBUILD is good. No sources in AUR.

So one definetely should merge and rework them to provide great Apple fonts package, but I don't have Mac and cannon do it myself.

On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Martín Cigorraga wrote:

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So one can easily pirate Apple fonts now? Nicely done!

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-- Kirill Churin Jabber: reflexing@reflexing.ru

If this is a legal download I'm utmost interested in installing and trying this package.

Wait, what? Direct links are illegal, but an svn checkout to the same Macbuntu repo is legal? Am I missing something?

Kirill Churin wrote:

No, it is not. It's illegal to redistribute Apple fonts, just like Microsoft fonts.

The PKGBUILD does not contain the fonts so it is not distribution. The fonts are downloaded directly by the user when the package is built. Unless the source of those files is somehow illegal (e.g. privately hosted non-free files that the host may not legally distribute) then there is no problem. Regards, Xyne

Ok, thanks for the feedback, and it's what I assumed would be the case 
and my reason for asking. I did wonder why there were packages in the 
AUR that linked to content without, apparently, having appropriate 
rights. To confirm that I understand this correctly:

On 20/01/13 08:45, Xyne wrote:
> The PKGBUILD does not contain the fonts so it is not distribution. The 
> fonts are downloaded directly by the user when the package is built. 
> Unless the source of those files is somehow illegal (e.g. privately 
> hosted non-free files that the host may not legally distribute) then 
> there is no problem. Regards, Xyne 

A PKGBUILD may link to legal sources, so for an Apple font package to be 
legal, its sources must be. I get that. But the sources I used are those 
in use by packages already in AUR so, if they aren't legal sources, this 
would make the existing AUR packages (macfonts and ttf-mac-fonts) bad 
too, right ?

So to review the legality of the package we need to look at its sources:

On 20/01/13 04:27, Kirill Churin wrote:
> This package source links:
> http://ompldr.org/vNXFlNA — illegal
> http://invisible-**files.googlecode.com/files/**ttf-mac-fonts.tar.gz
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> illegal
> https://macbuntu.svn.**sourceforge.net/svnroot/**macbuntu/Macbuntu/fonts
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> illegal
1. http://ompldr.org/vNXFlNA

This is from package 'macfonts' in the AUR. From what I can tell it 
originated from http://ubuntu-debs.googlecode.com/files/macfonts.tar.gz 
via http://korben.info//des-polices-mac-sur-ubuntu.html who copied it 
onto a file host at http://ompldr.org/vNXFlNA. The source at 
http://ubuntu-debs.googlecode.com is no longer available.

2. http://invisible-files.googlecode.com/files/ttf-mac-fonts.tar.gz

This is indirectly from package 'ttf-mac' in the AUR. It isn't in the 
package itself but is directly linked from the URL given in the 
PKGBUILD's 'pkgdesc' entry 
(https://github.com/GutenYe/aur/tree/master/ttf-mac: at the bottom, 
there is a link "Wow, It's too complex, it there a easy way? sure, you 
can find a download link at 
http://code.google.com/p/invisible-files/downloads/list").

3. https://macbuntu.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/macbuntu/Macbuntu/fonts

This is from package 'ttf-mac-fonts' in the AUR. This one presents the 
"Safari For Windows" license as applicable to this which I doubt is 
relevant.

I would say that, from a legality viewpoint, package 'ttf-mac' is the 
cleanest as it doesn't install anything without additional work on 
behalf of the user to provide licensed content themselves (although it 
does indirectly link to a dubious way of obtaining that content). The 
other, however, I would suggest are somewhat dubious and should, 
perhaps, be removed?

As I can't vouch for the sources used by the AUR packages that I based 
my package on, I won't publish my package to the AUR.

Many thanks for your comment and apologies if I've opened a can of worms ;)
John