[aur-general] About BURG packages
Hello, There is a variety of burg-* packages on AUR: burg-bzr burg-bzr-fixed burg-emu-fixed burg-themes burg-themes-extras burg-themes-fixed the packages with *-fixed postfix are the working ones (There is a thread going on https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=100130). And the other packages (the packages other than burg-themes-extras, I didn't test it) are orphaned or not working -BTW, most of them aren't updated for a while-. I suggest removing burg-bzr, burg-themes and renaming fixed packages as deleted ones. And also, I'll test burg-themes-extras and let you know if it works. Thanks, -- H.Gökhan SARI hsa2@difuzyon.net
On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 23:04 +0200, H.Gökhan SARI wrote:
Hello, There is a variety of burg-* packages on AUR:
burg-bzr
burg-bzr-fixed
burg-emu-fixed
burg-themes
burg-themes-extras
burg-themes-fixed
the packages with *-fixed postfix are the working ones (There is a thread going on https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=100130). And the other packages (the packages other than burg-themes-extras, I didn't test it) are orphaned or not working -BTW, most of them aren't updated for a while-. I suggest removing burg-bzr, burg-themes and renaming fixed packages as deleted ones.
And also, I'll test burg-themes-extras and let you know if it works.
Thanks,
If the packages without the -fixed postfix are orphaned why not just adopt them (or ask whoever maintaines *-fixed to adopt them. Any naming scheme with -fixed at the end doesn't make sense in the long run.
Main burg package (which is burg-bzr, https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33382) is not orphaned and not updated since July 16, although package is flagged as out-of-date and a better PKGBUILD is suggested in comments. And I think it's nonsense adopting burg-themes (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38066) due to it's containing themes only not working without main burg package. 2010/11/24 Ng Oon-Ee <ngoonee@gmail.com>
If the packages without the -fixed postfix are orphaned why not just adopt them (or ask whoever maintaines *-fixed to adopt them. Any naming scheme with -fixed at the end doesn't make sense in the long run.
-- H.Gökhan SARI hsa2@difuzyon.net
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 02:37:52PM +0200, H.Gökhan SARI wrote:
Main burg package (which is burg-bzr, https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33382) is not orphaned and not updated since July 16, although package is flagged as out-of-date and a better PKGBUILD is suggested in comments. And I think it's nonsense adopting burg-themes (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38066) due to it's containing themes only not working without main burg package.
If an AUR package is broken, you should always adhere to following procedure: * Tell the maintainer to fix the package using AUR comments or just send him a mail. I prefer AUR comments since they can be reviewed and discussed by others easily. You might also nopaste a patch and/or fixed PKGBUILD. * Wait for the maintainer to fix the package. * If he doesn't reply/react for some time, send him a mail asking him to update the package or orphan it if he doesn't want to maintain it anymore. * If he doesn't reply to that mail for another week, send a mail to aur-general asking the TUs to disown the package. * Never create duplicate packages with "-fixed", "-working", "-better" suffixes. I think we should delete the "-fixed" packages and disown burg-bzr if the maintainer doesn't want to maintain it anymore, so someone can adopt and fix the packages with correct namings. I'll send x-demon a mail.
Am 24.11.2010 13:55, schrieb Lukas Fleischer:
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 02:37:52PM +0200, H.Gökhan SARI wrote:
Main burg package (which is burg-bzr, https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33382) is not orphaned and not updated since July 16, although package is flagged as out-of-date and a better PKGBUILD is suggested in comments. And I think it's nonsense adopting burg-themes (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38066) due to it's containing themes only not working without main burg package.
If an AUR package is broken, you should always adhere to following procedure:
* Tell the maintainer to fix the package using AUR comments or just send him a mail. I prefer AUR comments since they can be reviewed and discussed by others easily. You might also nopaste a patch and/or fixed PKGBUILD.
* Wait for the maintainer to fix the package.
* If he doesn't reply/react for some time, send him a mail asking him to update the package or orphan it if he doesn't want to maintain it anymore.
* If he doesn't reply to that mail for another week, send a mail to aur-general asking the TUs to disown the package.
* Never create duplicate packages with "-fixed", "-working", "-better" suffixes.
I think we should delete the "-fixed" packages and disown burg-bzr if the maintainer doesn't want to maintain it anymore, so someone can adopt and fix the packages with correct namings. I'll send x-demon a mail.
Hello, basically Lukas is right with this procedure. But in this case there is a forum thread since June in which the author of burg-bzr did not take part. For me that is reason enough to think that he or she is gone. So I orphaned burg-bzr. The others were already orphaned. The packageges named -fixed will be deleted soon. I made some AUR comments and a forum post telling so. Regards Stefan
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 06:19:37PM +0100, Stefan Husmann wrote:
basically Lukas is right with this procedure. But in this case there is a forum thread since June in which the author of burg-bzr did not take part. For me that is reason enough to think that he or she is gone. So I orphaned burg-bzr. The others were already orphaned. The packageges named -fixed will be deleted soon. I made some AUR comments and a forum post telling so.
Are AUR package submitters considered to read the forums? Even I don't have a FluxBB account and I never read any forum postings (except once or twice when someone sent me a link).
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 07:43:43PM +0100, Lukas Fleischer wrote:
Are AUR package submitters considered to read the forums? Even I don't have a FluxBB account and I never read any forum postings (except once or twice when someone sent me a link).
s/considered/supposed/ :)
If nothing has been done since June, what is the urge? You can write an email and wait one more week. I also agree with the fact that not everyone do read the forum. I personally don't. -- Cedric Girard Sent from my phone, sorry for the top-posting. Le 24 nov. 2010 18:20, "Stefan Husmann" <stefan-husmann@t-online.de> a écrit :
Am 24.11.2010 13:55, schrieb Lukas Fleischer:
On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 02:37:52PM +0200, H.Gökhan SARI wrote:
Main burg package (which is burg-bzr, https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=33382) is not orphaned and not updated since July 16, although package is flagged as out-of-date and a better PKGBUILD is suggested in comments. And I think it's nonsense adopting burg-themes (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38066) due to it's containing themes only not working without main burg package.
If an AUR package is broken, you should always adhere to following procedure:
* Tell the maintainer to fix the package using AUR comments or just send him a mail. I prefer AUR comments since they can be reviewed and discussed by others easily. You might also nopaste a patch and/or fixed PKGBUILD.
* Wait for the maintainer to fix the package.
* If he doesn't reply/react for some time, send him a mail asking him to update the package or orphan it if he doesn't want to maintain it anymore.
* If he doesn't reply to that mail for another week, send a mail to aur-general asking the TUs to disown the package.
* Never create duplicate packages with "-fixed", "-working", "-better" suffixes.
I think we should delete the "-fixed" packages and disown burg-bzr if the maintainer doesn't want to maintain it anymore, so someone can adopt and fix the packages with correct namings. I'll send x-demon a mail.
Hello,
basically Lukas is right with this procedure. But in this case there is a forum thread since June in which the author of burg-bzr did not take part.
For me that is reason enough to think that he or she is gone. So I orphaned burg-bzr. The others were already orphaned. The packageges named -fixed will be deleted soon. I made some AUR comments and a forum post telling so.
Regards Stefan
H.Gökhan SARI wrote:
And I think it's nonsense adopting burg-themes (https://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=38066) due to it's containing themes only not working without main burg package. That's what dependencias are for.
Wieland
Hi TUs, The package rtmpdump (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22759) can be removed from AUR since it's now in [extra]. Heiko
On 24 November 2010 14:02, Heiko Baums <lists@baums-on-web.de> wrote:
Hi TUs,
The package rtmpdump (http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=22759) can be removed from AUR since it's now in [extra].
Heiko
Thanks, deleted.
participants (8)
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Cédric Girard
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H.Gökhan SARI
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Heiko Baums
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Lukas Fleischer
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Lukáš Jirkovský
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Ng Oon-Ee
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Stefan Husmann
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Wieland Hoffmann