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Ronald van Haren

6 Jun 2008 6 Jun '08

3:27 a.m.

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Alessio Bolognino wrote:

On Thu 2008-06-05 20:20, Ronald van Haren wrote:

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on a sidenote, I really don't see any point in having these categories. The categories are really not intuitive and don't help searching for a kind of package any easier. Well, it may be just me of course :p

I don't think they are extremely useful, but they don't hurt neither. Someone may think: "Let's see what cool game it's on the AUR" and then look at the "games" category.

Every distro has packages in categories, and I think it does make sense.

package categories are dropped from [core] and [extra] it seems from both the ABS tree and the package browser on www.archlinux.org Anyways, having package categories does indeed make sense as you described in the case of games, as well as some other sorts of packages. I just think the categories are really bad defined IMHO. For example you need an editor. Most likely the editors are to be found in the following categories: editors, devel, gnome, kde, xfce and maybe even x11 Especially the gnome/kde/xfce categories seem not really needed to me.

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P.s. The first time I read your mail I thought you were proposing to drop categories, but probably you were not.

-- Alessio (molok) Bolognino

no if I was proposing something I would have started a new thread. It was just to see what others were thinking about it.

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Jordi Cerdan

6 Jun 6 Jun

3:38 a.m.

New subject: [aur-general] [SPLITTED] AUR package categories (WAS: drpython PKGBUILD update)

El jue, 05-06-2008 a las 21:27 +0200, Ronald van Haren escribió:

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On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Alessio Bolognino wrote:

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On Thu 2008-06-05 20:20, Ronald van Haren wrote:

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on a sidenote, I really don't see any point in having these categories. The categories are really not intuitive and don't help searching for a kind of package any easier. Well, it may be just me of course :p

I don't think they are extremely useful, but they don't hurt neither. Someone may think: "Let's see what cool game it's on the AUR" and then look at the "games" category.

Every distro has packages in categories, and I think it does make sense.

package categories are dropped from [core] and [extra] it seems from both the ABS tree and the package browser on www.archlinux.org

Anyways, having package categories does indeed make sense as you described in the case of games, as well as some other sorts of packages. I just think the categories are really bad defined IMHO. For example you need an editor. Most likely the editors are to be found in the following categories: editors, devel, gnome, kde, xfce and maybe even x11 Especially the gnome/kde/xfce categories seem not really needed to me.

...
P.s. The first time I read your mail I thought you were proposing to drop categories, but probably you were not.

-- Alessio (molok) Bolognino

no if I was proposing something I would have started a new thread. It was just to see what others were thinking about it.

May be categories should be dropped and a tag systems installed, so that a package could belong to multiple tags. As in drpython, the IDE for python, this one could belong to devel and editors at the same time.

Aaron Griffin

3:41 a.m.

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Jordi Cerdan wrote:

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El jue, 05-06-2008 a las 21:27 +0200, Ronald van Haren escribió:

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On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Alessio Bolognino wrote:

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On Thu 2008-06-05 20:20, Ronald van Haren wrote:

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on a sidenote, I really don't see any point in having these categories. The categories are really not intuitive and don't help searching for a kind of package any easier. Well, it may be just me of course :p

I don't think they are extremely useful, but they don't hurt neither. Someone may think: "Let's see what cool game it's on the AUR" and then look at the "games" category.

Every distro has packages in categories, and I think it does make sense.

package categories are dropped from [core] and [extra] it seems from both the ABS tree and the package browser on www.archlinux.org

Anyways, having package categories does indeed make sense as you described in the case of games, as well as some other sorts of packages. I just think the categories are really bad defined IMHO. For example you need an editor. Most likely the editors are to be found in the following categories: editors, devel, gnome, kde, xfce and maybe even x11 Especially the gnome/kde/xfce categories seem not really needed to me.

...
P.s. The first time I read your mail I thought you were proposing to drop categories, but probably you were not.

-- Alessio (molok) Bolognino

no if I was proposing something I would have started a new thread. It was just to see what others were thinking about it.

May be categories should be dropped and a tag systems installed, so that a package could belong to multiple tags. As in drpython, the IDE for python, this one could belong to devel and editors at the same time.

Pacman is working towards this. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/7132

Jordi Cerdan

3:46 a.m.

New subject: [aur-general] [SPLITTED] AUR package categories (WAS: drpython PKGBUILD update)

El jue, 05-06-2008 a las 14:41 -0500, Aaron Griffin escribió:

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On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 2:38 PM, Jordi Cerdan wrote:

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El jue, 05-06-2008 a las 21:27 +0200, Ronald van Haren escribió:

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On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Alessio Bolognino wrote:

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On Thu 2008-06-05 20:20, Ronald van Haren wrote:

...
on a sidenote, I really don't see any point in having these categories. The categories are really not intuitive and don't help searching for a kind of package any easier. Well, it may be just me of course :p

I don't think they are extremely useful, but they don't hurt neither. Someone may think: "Let's see what cool game it's on the AUR" and then look at the "games" category.

Every distro has packages in categories, and I think it does make sense.

package categories are dropped from [core] and [extra] it seems from both the ABS tree and the package browser on www.archlinux.org

Anyways, having package categories does indeed make sense as you described in the case of games, as well as some other sorts of packages. I just think the categories are really bad defined IMHO. For example you need an editor. Most likely the editors are to be found in the following categories: editors, devel, gnome, kde, xfce and maybe even x11 Especially the gnome/kde/xfce categories seem not really needed to me.

...
P.s. The first time I read your mail I thought you were proposing to drop categories, but probably you were not.

-- Alessio (molok) Bolognino

no if I was proposing something I would have started a new thread. It was just to see what others were thinking about it.

May be categories should be dropped and a tag systems installed, so that a package could belong to multiple tags. As in drpython, the IDE for python, this one could belong to devel and editors at the same time.

Pacman is working towards this. http://bugs.archlinux.org/task/7132

Great!

Loui

3:45 a.m.

New subject: [aur-general] [SPLITTED] AUR package categories (WAS: drpython PKGBUILD update)

On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 21:38:00 +0200 Jordi Cerdan wrote:

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May be categories should be dropped and a tag systems installed, so that a package could belong to multiple tags. As in drpython, the IDE for python, this one could belong to devel and editors at the same time.

I was thinking the same thing. I was wrestling with the idea whether we could just use groups or not. A package can belong to more than one group. The issue with that is that groups are not just meaningless metadata. They're actually used in package installation, removal and dependencies. It might be bad to muck with that. In that case it would be good to introduce a tags array.

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