[aur-general] Question about bad applications

Nathan O

31 Aug 2010 31 Aug '10

5:48 a.m.

What should I do about software that won't work, not due to the fact about how it is packaged, but badly coded? I am finding some packages of mine that won't compile or run and the author(programmer) doesn't seem to be active anymore

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Loui Chang

31 Aug 31 Aug

6:13 a.m.

On Tue 31 Aug 2010 00:48 -0500, Nathan O wrote:

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What should I do about software that won't work, not due to the fact about how it is packaged, but badly coded? I am finding some packages of mine that won't compile or run and the author(programmer) doesn't seem to be active anymore

Patch them if you want, orphan them if you don't.

Nathan O

6:17 a.m.

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What should I do about software that won't work, not due to the fact about how it is packaged, but badly coded? I am finding some packages of mine

On Tue 31 Aug 2010 00:48 -0500, Nathan O wrote: that

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won't compile or run and the author(programmer) doesn't seem to be active anymore

Patch them if you want, orphan them if you don't.

Some applications I can patch or use sed, but there are some packages that, in my opinion, would require somebody that knows programming in order to fix

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Loui Chang wrote: the issues.

Gordon JC Pearce

6:59 a.m.

On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 01:17 -0500, Nathan O wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Loui Chang wrote:

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What should I do about software that won't work, not due to the fact about how it is packaged, but badly coded? I am finding some packages of mine

On Tue 31 Aug 2010 00:48 -0500, Nathan O wrote: that

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won't compile or run and the author(programmer) doesn't seem to be active anymore

Patch them if you want, orphan them if you don't.

Some applications I can patch or use sed, but there are some packages that, in my opinion, would require somebody that knows programming in order to fix the issues.

Post a link to them, and maybe someone will take a look. Gordon MM0YEQ

Eric Bélanger

7:44 a.m.

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Nathan O wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Loui Chang wrote:

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What should I do about software that won't work, not due to the fact about how it is packaged, but badly coded? I am finding some packages of mine

On Tue 31 Aug 2010 00:48 -0500, Nathan O wrote: that

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won't compile or run and the author(programmer) doesn't seem to be active anymore

Patch them if you want, orphan them if you don't.

Some applications I can patch or use sed, but there are some packages that, in my opinion, would require somebody that knows programming in order to fix the issues.

You could check what patches other distros have applied.

PyroPeter

2:36 p.m.

On 08/31/2010 08:17 AM, Nathan O wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Loui Chang wrote:

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What should I do about software that won't work, not due to the fact about how it is packaged, but badly coded? I am finding some packages of mine

On Tue 31 Aug 2010 00:48 -0500, Nathan O wrote: that

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won't compile or run and the author(programmer) doesn't seem to be active anymore

Patch them if you want, orphan them if you don't.

Some applications I can patch or use sed, but there are some packages that, in my opinion, would require somebody that knows programming in order to fix the issues. Hi Nathan,

If it's a useful software someone will fork and fix it properly. Are you speaking about a particular software? Greetz, Peter Lustig -- freenode/pyropeter "12:50 - Ich drücke Return."

Nathan O

7:03 p.m.

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:36 AM, PyroPeter wrote:

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On 08/31/2010 08:17 AM, Nathan O wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Loui Chang wrote:

On Tue 31 Aug 2010 00:48 -0500, Nathan O wrote:

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What should I do about software that won't work, not due to the fact

about

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how it is packaged, but badly coded? I am finding some packages of mine

that

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won't compile or run and the author(programmer) doesn't seem to be active anymore

Patch them if you want, orphan them if you don't.

Some applications I can patch or use sed, but there are some packages that,

in my opinion, would require somebody that knows programming in order to fix the issues.

Hi Nathan,

If it's a useful software someone will fork and fix it properly. Are you speaking about a particular software?

Greetz, Peter Lustig -- freenode/pyropeter "12:50 - Ich drücke Return."

Currently I can't remember which ones. I will go through once I finish cleaning my current packages. Once I see the package name, I will remember which ones. Thanks

Nathan O

1 Sep 1 Sep

1:02 a.m.

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Nathan O wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:36 AM, PyroPeter wrote:

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On 08/31/2010 08:17 AM, Nathan O wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Loui Chang wrote:

On Tue 31 Aug 2010 00:48 -0500, Nathan O wrote:

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What should I do about software that won't work, not due to the fact

about

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how it is packaged, but badly coded? I am finding some packages of mine

that

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won't compile or run and the author(programmer) doesn't seem to be active anymore

Patch them if you want, orphan them if you don't.

Some applications I can patch or use sed, but there are some packages that,

in my opinion, would require somebody that knows programming in order to fix the issues.

Hi Nathan,

If it's a useful software someone will fork and fix it properly. Are you speaking about a particular software?

Greetz, Peter Lustig -- freenode/pyropeter "12:50 - Ich drücke Return."

Currently I can't remember which ones. I will go through once I finish cleaning my current packages. Once I see the package name, I will remember which ones.

Thanks

Ok the current packages that gives me the problems, are: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11337 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10611 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14896 (contacted author) http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7119 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11336 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31159

Nathan O

1:09 a.m.

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Nathan O wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Nathan O wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:36 AM, PyroPeter wrote:

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On 08/31/2010 08:17 AM, Nathan O wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Loui Chang wrote:

On Tue 31 Aug 2010 00:48 -0500, Nathan O wrote:

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What should I do about software that won't work, not due to the fact

about

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how it is packaged, but badly coded? I am finding some packages of mine

that

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won't compile or run and the author(programmer) doesn't seem to be active anymore

Patch them if you want, orphan them if you don't.

Some applications I can patch or use sed, but there are some packages that,

in my opinion, would require somebody that knows programming in order to fix the issues.

Hi Nathan,

If it's a useful software someone will fork and fix it properly. Are you speaking about a particular software?

Greetz, Peter Lustig -- freenode/pyropeter "12:50 - Ich drücke Return."

Currently I can't remember which ones. I will go through once I finish cleaning my current packages. Once I see the package name, I will remember which ones.

Thanks

Ok the current packages that gives me the problems, are:

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11337 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10611 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14896 (contacted author) http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7119 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11336 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31159

I contacted more authors than I noted above. The ones I contacted, I put it in a comments.

Loui Chang

3:35 a.m.

On Tue 31 Aug 2010 20:09 -0500, Nathan O wrote:

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On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Nathan O wrote:

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Ok the current packages that gives me the problems, are:

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11337 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10611 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14896 (contacted author) http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7119 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11336 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31159

I contacted more authors than I noted above. The ones I contacted, I put it in a comments.

Good stuff.

PyroPeter

4:35 p.m.

On 09/01/2010 03:02 AM, Nathan O wrote:

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Ok the current packages that gives me the problems, are:

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11337 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10611 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14896 (contacted author) http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7119 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11336 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31159

I will take a look at izulu. It seems funny and depends on one of my packages. Also, the list of packages you posted with names appended: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11337 libicq2000 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10611 kalsamix http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14896 libggi (contacted author) http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7119 ldaptor http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11336 ickle http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31159 izulu Regards, PyroPeter -- freenode/pyropeter "12:50 - Ich drücke Return."

PyroPeter

5:36 p.m.

On 09/01/2010 06:35 PM, PyroPeter wrote:

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On 09/01/2010 03:02 AM, Nathan O wrote:

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Ok the current packages that gives me the problems, are:

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11337 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10611 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14896 (contacted author) http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7119 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11336 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31159

I will take a look at izulu. It seems funny and depends on one of my packages.

Also, the list of packages you posted with names appended: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11337 libicq2000 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10611 kalsamix http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14896 libggi (contacted author) http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7119 ldaptor http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11336 ickle http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31159 izulu

Regards, PyroPeter I now managed to find the developers eMail-address and take a look on the code. what exactly is buggy about izulu? (Apart from beeing provided as deb-packet only)

About your PKGBUILD: 1. Maintainer-comment missing 2. Not all depends listed: The deb depends on: wget, xmlstarlet, imagemagick, xml-twig-tools Suggested: libnotify-bin 3. Try to keep your PKGBUILDs readable (proper indention) Regards, PyroPeter -- freenode/pyropeter "12:50 - Ich drücke Return."

Nathan O

8:50 p.m.

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 12:36 PM, PyroPeter wrote:

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On 09/01/2010 06:35 PM, PyroPeter wrote:

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On 09/01/2010 03:02 AM, Nathan O wrote:

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Ok the current packages that gives me the problems, are:

http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11337 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10611 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14896 (contacted author) http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7119 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11336 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31159

I will take a look at izulu. It seems funny and depends on one of my packages.

Also, the list of packages you posted with names appended: http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11337 libicq2000 http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=10611 kalsamix http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=14896 libggi (contacted author) http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=7119 ldaptor http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11336 ickle http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31159 izulu

Regards, PyroPeter

I now managed to find the developers eMail-address and take a look on the code. what exactly is buggy about izulu? (Apart from beeing provided as deb-packet only)

About your PKGBUILD: 1. Maintainer-comment missing 2. Not all depends listed: The deb depends on: wget, xmlstarlet, imagemagick, xml-twig-tools Suggested: libnotify-bin 3. Try to keep your PKGBUILDs readable (proper indention)

Regards, PyroPeter -- freenode/pyropeter "12:50 - Ich drücke Return."

Ok I have updated it to add Maintainer. It gives that it can not find gconftool. We have gconftool-2 but not "gconftool", in which it is looking for. When you try to run izulu

PyroPeter

2 Sep 2 Sep

2:37 p.m.

On 09/01/2010 10:50 PM, Nathan O wrote:

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Ok I have updated it to add Maintainer. It gives that it can not find gconftool. We have gconftool-2 but not "gconftool", in which it is looking for. When you try to run izulu Hi,

it seems like your message got truncated. Gconftool is not needed by izulu, only by the default configuration. Everyone is free to change the WPCOMMAND-variable in ~/.izulu/config. I would set up a post_install hook to display a text like: "Remember to edit ~/.izulu/config according to your needs. A default config is created at first run of izulu." Regards, PyroPeter -- freenode/pyropeter "12:50 - Ich drücke Return."

PyroPeter

4 Sep 4 Sep

10:31 a.m.

On 09/01/2010 07:36 PM, PyroPeter wrote:

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I now managed to find the developers eMail-address and take a look on the code. what exactly is buggy about izulu? (Apart from beeing provided as deb-packet only)

About your PKGBUILD: 1. Maintainer-comment missing 2. Not all depends listed: The deb depends on: wget, xmlstarlet, imagemagick, xml-twig-tools Suggested: libnotify-bin 3. Try to keep your PKGBUILDs readable (proper indention)

Regards, PyroPeter

Izulu is now available as tarball[0]. With it comes a README containing the dependencies and the developers e-mail-address for further questions. Your PKGBUILD is still not indented properly, and the dependencies are incomplete. Regards, PyroPeter [0] http://sourceforge.net/projects/izulu/files/izulu-0.2.5.3.tar.gz/download -- freenode/pyropeter "12:50 - Ich drücke Return."

Nathan O

6 p.m.

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 5:31 AM, PyroPeter wrote:

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On 09/01/2010 07:36 PM, PyroPeter wrote:

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I now managed to find the developers eMail-address and take a look on the code. what exactly is buggy about izulu? (Apart from beeing provided as deb-packet only)

About your PKGBUILD: 1. Maintainer-comment missing 2. Not all depends listed: The deb depends on: wget, xmlstarlet, imagemagick, xml-twig-tools Suggested: libnotify-bin 3. Try to keep your PKGBUILDs readable (proper indention)

Regards, PyroPeter

Izulu is now available as tarball[0]. With it comes a README containing the dependencies and the developers e-mail-address for further questions. Your PKGBUILD is still not indented properly, and the dependencies are incomplete.

Regards, PyroPeter

[0] http://sourceforge.net/projects/izulu/files/izulu-0.2.5.3.tar.gz/download

-- freenode/pyropeter "12:50 - Ich drücke Return."

It is now fixed, some how I guess I didn't notice the tar.gz files

Gary Wright

6:18 p.m.

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Nathan O wrote:

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On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 5:31 AM, PyroPeter wrote:

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On 09/01/2010 07:36 PM, PyroPeter wrote:

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I now managed to find the developers eMail-address and take a look on the code. what exactly is buggy about izulu? (Apart from beeing provided as deb-packet only)

About your PKGBUILD: 1. Maintainer-comment missing 2. Not all depends listed: The deb depends on: wget, xmlstarlet, imagemagick, xml-twig-tools Suggested: libnotify-bin 3. Try to keep your PKGBUILDs readable (proper indention)

Regards, PyroPeter

Izulu is now available as tarball[0]. With it comes a README containing the dependencies and the developers e-mail-address for further questions. Your PKGBUILD is still not indented properly, and the dependencies are incomplete.

Regards, PyroPeter

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http://sourceforge.net/projects/izulu/files/izulu-0.2.5.3.tar.gz/download

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-- freenode/pyropeter "12:50 - Ich drücke Return."

It is now fixed, some how I guess I didn't notice the tar.gz files

They weren't there before. I was going to mess around with it, but then I saw that they only had .debs posted on their sourceforge page, I winced and thought about how much I hate working with .debs when not on a Debian system. Maybe PyroPeter sent the developer an email requesting the tarballs get posted to the SF page?

Nathan O

6:32 p.m.

On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 1:18 PM, Gary Wright wrote:

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On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Nathan O wrote:

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On Sat, Sep 4, 2010 at 5:31 AM, PyroPeter wrote:

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On 09/01/2010 07:36 PM, PyroPeter wrote:

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I now managed to find the developers eMail-address and take a look on the code. what exactly is buggy about izulu? (Apart from beeing provided as deb-packet only)

About your PKGBUILD: 1. Maintainer-comment missing 2. Not all depends listed: The deb depends on: wget, xmlstarlet, imagemagick, xml-twig-tools Suggested: libnotify-bin 3. Try to keep your PKGBUILDs readable (proper indention)

Regards, PyroPeter

Izulu is now available as tarball[0]. With it comes a README containing the dependencies and the developers e-mail-address for further questions. Your PKGBUILD is still not indented properly, and the dependencies are incomplete.

Regards, PyroPeter

[0]

http://sourceforge.net/projects/izulu/files/izulu-0.2.5.3.tar.gz/download

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Return."

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It is now fixed, some how I guess I didn't notice the tar.gz files

They weren't there before. I was going to mess around with it, but then I saw that they only had .debs posted on their sourceforge page, I winced and thought about how much I hate working with .debs when not on a Debian system.

Maybe PyroPeter sent the developer an email requesting the tarballs get posted to the SF page?

Or I just updated the PKGBUILD and only checked the page for a newer version and left it as a deb file, woops :)

PyroPeter

7:28 p.m.

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Maybe PyroPeter sent the developer an email requesting the tarballs get posted to the SF page? Yep.

-- freenode/pyropeter "12:50 - Ich drücke Return."

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