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Lukas Jirkovsky

18 Jan 2014 18 Jan '14

10:12 a.m.

I'm not using laptop-mode-tools for a long time now and recently I've got two bug reports that I don't really want to bother fixing (they are upstream problems). If nobody steps up to maintaining this package by the next Friday, I will drop it to AUR. Lukas

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Lukas Jirkovsky

25 Jan 25 Jan

11:33 a.m.

On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Lukas Jirkovsky wrote:

I'm not using laptop-mode-tools for a long time now and recently I've got two bug reports that I don't really want to bother fixing (they are upstream problems).

If nobody steps up to maintaining this package by the next Friday, I will drop it to AUR.

Lukas

laptop-mode-tools has been dropped to AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/laptop-mode-tools/ Lukas

Maxime Gauduin

27 Jan 27 Jan

3:53 p.m.

On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Lukas Jirkovsky wrote:

On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Lukas Jirkovsky wrote:

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I'm not using laptop-mode-tools for a long time now and recently I've got two bug reports that I don't really want to bother fixing (they are upstream problems).

If nobody steps up to maintaining this package by the next Friday, I will drop it to AUR.

Lukas

laptop-mode-tools has been dropped to AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/laptop-mode-tools/

Lukas

I've pushed tlp and tlp-rdw to [community] as a replacement for laptop-mode-tools. For those who don't know about it, you can check the upstream website [1] and the wiki [2]. Power savings are on par with laptop-mode-tools. [1] http://linrunner.de/en/tlp/tlp.html [2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/TLP Cheers, -- Maxime

Patrick Burroughs (Celti)

28 Jan 28 Jan

4:04 a.m.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Maxime Gauduin wrote:

On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 12:33 PM, Lukas Jirkovsky wrote:

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laptop-mode-tools has been dropped to AUR: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/laptop-mode-tools/

I've pushed tlp and tlp-rdw to [community] as a replacement for laptop-mode-tools. For those who don't know about it, you can check the upstream website [1] and the wiki [2]. Power savings are on par with laptop-mode-tools.

Does anyone know of software that offers laptop-mod-tools' configuration to automatically hibernate on a critical battery level? Regards, ~Celti

Daniel Landau

5:02 a.m.

On 27.01.2014 22:04, Patrick Burroughs (Celti) wrote:

Does anyone know of software that offers laptop-mod-tools' configuration to automatically hibernate on a critical battery level?

Does it have to be something other than Gnome? https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/3.10/power-lowpower.html.en Daniel

Patrick Burroughs (Celti)

5:49 a.m.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Daniel Landau wrote:

On 27.01.2014 22:04, Patrick Burroughs (Celti) wrote:

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Does anyone know of software that offers laptop-mod-tools' configuration to automatically hibernate on a critical battery level?

Does it have to be something other than Gnome?

The suggestion is appreciated, but being a snobby i3 user, I rather despise Gnome, KDE, and other similar weighty environments. I'm making some progress on a udev rule that will do what I want, however; currently I'm testing to see how often my battery emits udev events. Regards, ~Celti

Patrick Burroughs (Celti)

6:50 a.m.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Patrick Burroughs (Celti) wrote:

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Daniel Landau wrote:

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On 27.01.2014 22:04, Patrick Burroughs (Celti) wrote:

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Does anyone know of software that offers laptop-mod-tools' configuration to automatically hibernate on a critical battery level?

Does it have to be something other than Gnome?

The suggestion is appreciated, but being a snobby i3 user, I rather despise Gnome, KDE, and other similar weighty environments. I'm making some progress on a udev rule that will do what I want, however; currently I'm testing to see how often my battery emits udev events.

Regards, ~Celti

And the udev rule works! Now I can completely do away with laptop-mode-tools. For the curious, I used: SUBSYSTEM=="power_supply", ATTR{status}=="Discharging", ATTR{capacity}=="5", RUN+="/usr/bin/systemctl hybrid-sleep" This should work for any laptop that emits battery uevents at a reasonable rate; mine didn't seem to at first, but started sending one per 1% drop after it dropped below 15% or so, so if you want to test it you may be waiting a while. Regards, ~Celti

Daniel Landau

3:51 p.m.

On 2014-01-28 00:50, Patrick Burroughs (Celti) wrote:

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Patrick Burroughs (Celti) wrote:

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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:02 PM, Daniel Landau wrote:

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On 27.01.2014 22:04, Patrick Burroughs (Celti) wrote:

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Does anyone know of software that offers laptop-mod-tools' configuration to automatically hibernate on a critical battery level?

Does it have to be something other than Gnome?

The suggestion is appreciated, but being a snobby i3 user, I rather despise Gnome, KDE, and other similar weighty environments. I'm making some progress on a udev rule that will do what I want, however; currently I'm testing to see how often my battery emits udev events.

I had a good hunch you wouldn't be satisfied with Gnome :)

And the udev rule works! Now I can completely do away with laptop-mode-tools.

For the curious, I used: SUBSYSTEM=="power_supply", ATTR{status}=="Discharging", ATTR{capacity}=="5", RUN+="/usr/bin/systemctl hybrid-sleep"

This should work for any laptop that emits battery uevents at a reasonable rate; mine didn't seem to at first, but started sending one per 1% drop after it dropped below 15% or so, so if you want to test it you may be waiting a while.

That's cool! Do you think this would fit somewhere in the Wiki or as an AUR package? Are you sure you want hybrid-sleep instead of plain hibernate: both will save your state to disk but with hybrid-sleep you run the risk of running your battery all the way down, which supposedly isn't healthy for the battery (http://www.pcworld.com/article/191574/long_live_your_laptop_battery.html). Daniel

Patrick Burroughs (Celti)

8:48 p.m.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Daniel Landau wrote:

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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Patrick Burroughs (Celti) wrote: And the udev rule works! Now I can completely do away with laptop-mode-tools.

For the curious, I used: SUBSYSTEM=="power_supply", ATTR{status}=="Discharging", ATTR{capacity}=="5", RUN+="/usr/bin/systemctl hybrid-sleep"

This should work for any laptop that emits battery uevents at a reasonable rate; mine didn't seem to at first, but started sending one per 1% drop after it dropped below 15% or so, so if you want to test it you may be waiting a while.

That's cool! Do you think this would fit somewhere in the Wiki or as an AUR package?

A wiki article seems best, so that people can adjust the type of sleep and percentage chance to best suit their laptop.

Are you sure you want hybrid-sleep instead of plain hibernate: both will save your state to disk but with hybrid-sleep you run the risk of running your battery all the way down, which supposedly isn't healthy for the battery (http://www.pcworld.com/article/191574/long_live_your_laptop_battery.html).

There is a small danger of that, but my laptop uses little enough power when suspended that that 5% charge will give me hours to plug it back in. The hybrid sleep is just a final failsafe and the hibernate part should never actually be needed. Regards, ~Celti

Jakub Klinkovský

3 Feb 3 Feb

11:08 a.m.

On 28.01.14 at 13:48, Patrick Burroughs (Celti) wrote:

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Daniel Landau wrote:

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On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Patrick Burroughs (Celti) wrote: And the udev rule works! Now I can completely do away with laptop-mode-tools.

For the curious, I used: SUBSYSTEM=="power_supply", ATTR{status}=="Discharging", ATTR{capacity}=="5", RUN+="/usr/bin/systemctl hybrid-sleep"

This should work for any laptop that emits battery uevents at a reasonable rate; mine didn't seem to at first, but started sending one per 1% drop after it dropped below 15% or so, so if you want to test it you may be waiting a while.

That's cool! Do you think this would fit somewhere in the Wiki or as an AUR package?

A wiki article seems best, so that people can adjust the type of sleep and percentage chance to best suit their laptop.

It's already there: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Laptop#Udev_events You should also be aware of this caveat: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Talk:Laptop#RUN.2B.3D.22.3Ccommand.3E.2...

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Are you sure you want hybrid-sleep instead of plain hibernate: both will save your state to disk but with hybrid-sleep you run the risk of running your battery all the way down, which supposedly isn't healthy for the battery (http://www.pcworld.com/article/191574/long_live_your_laptop_battery.html).

There is a small danger of that, but my laptop uses little enough power when suspended that that 5% charge will give me hours to plug it back in. The hybrid sleep is just a final failsafe and the hibernate part should never actually be needed.

Regards, ~Celti

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Daniel Landau
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Maxime Gauduin
Patrick Burroughs (Celti)