Hi,
Could some of our x86_64 wielding TU's have a look at the package difference page (http://www.archlinux.de/?page=ArchitectureDifferences) and do some building? I am a bit busy with work to do this at the moment.
Cheers, Allan
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Allan McRae allan@archlinux.org wrote:
Hi,
Could some of our x86_64 wielding TU's have a look at the package difference page (http://www.archlinux.de/?page=ArchitectureDifferences) and do some building? I am a bit busy with work to do this at the moment.
Cheers, Allan
It would be nice if that page didn't list packages with one arch only, if you who made that page reads this :)
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Anders Bergh anders1@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 12:20 PM, Allan McRae allan@archlinux.org wrote:
Hi,
Could some of our x86_64 wielding TU's have a look at the package difference page (http://www.archlinux.de/?page=ArchitectureDifferences) and do some building? I am a bit busy with work to do this at the moment.
Cheers, Allan
It would be nice if that page didn't list packages with one arch only, if you who made that page reads this :)
-- Anders
so how would you know in that case if someone uploads a new package only for one architecture but the package is buildable for both architectures?
Ronald
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Ronald van Haren pressh@gmail.com wrote:
so how would you know in that case if someone uploads a new package only for one architecture but the package is buildable for both architectures?
Ronald
Don't know, but TUs uploading new packages should try to build them on 64-bit as well (if it is possible). Some of these packages will never build on 64-bit, or be usable on 32-bit. Perhaps something like arch=(i686 !x86_64) would be useful...
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Anders Bergh wrote:
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Ronald van Haren pressh@gmail.com wrote:
so how would you know in that case if someone uploads a new package only for one architecture but the package is buildable for both architectures?
Ronald
Don't know, but TUs uploading new packages should try to build them on 64-bit as well (if it is possible).
I believe (and hope) that TU who have access to a x86_64 machine already provide x86_64 versions of their packages. BTW, gcarrier has a build machine for x86_64. Ask him for access if you don't have a x86_64 machine.
Some of these packages will never build on 64-bit, or be usable on 32-bit. Perhaps something like arch=(i686 !x86_64) would be useful...
In this case, !x86_64 will be taken as an achitecture. A comment after the arch field would be more aproppriate, e.g.: arch=(i686) # Binary blob, doesn't work on x86_64
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Eric Belanger belanger@astro.umontreal.ca wrote:
On Tue, 9 Sep 2008, Anders Bergh wrote:
On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 3:46 PM, Ronald van Haren pressh@gmail.com wrote:
so how would you know in that case if someone uploads a new package only for one architecture but the package is buildable for both architectures?
Ronald
Don't know, but TUs uploading new packages should try to build them on 64-bit as well (if it is possible).
I believe (and hope) that TU who have access to a x86_64 machine already provide x86_64 versions of their packages. BTW, gcarrier has a build machine for x86_64. Ask him for access if you don't have a x86_64 machine.
Yes, definitely. I meant that all TUs should have access to a x86_64 machine, which means all new community packages will have arch=(i686 x86_64) if they can be built on both architectures. If a TU only sets arch=(i686) one should assume it doesn't work on x86_64.
Some of these packages will never build on 64-bit, or be usable on 32-bit. Perhaps something like arch=(i686 !x86_64) would be useful...
In this case, !x86_64 will be taken as an achitecture. A comment after the arch field would be more aproppriate, e.g.: arch=(i686) # Binary blob, doesn't work on x86_64
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Yes, it was a suggestion for how some packages (such as lib32-*) could be ignored on that page.
So... apart from suggestions about how the package difference page [1] could be improved, did anyone actually do some building for community64? The number of differences between the two arches is about as bad as I have ever seen it.
In particular, there seems to be a number of new packages added that are only present in i686 at the moment. If these are truly i686 only, please add them to the community 64 status wiki page [2] with a reason.
Thanks, Allan
[1] http://www.archlinux.de/?page=ArchitectureDifferences [2] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Community64_Status
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Allan McRae allan@archlinux.org wrote:
So... apart from suggestions about how the package difference page [1] could be improved, did anyone actually do some building for community64? The number of differences between the two arches is about as bad as I have ever seen it.
In particular, there seems to be a number of new packages added that are only present in i686 at the moment. If these are truly i686 only, please add them to the community 64 status wiki page [2] with a reason.
Thanks, Allan
[1] http://www.archlinux.de/?page=ArchitectureDifferences [2] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Community64_Status
I'll try to make a bit of time on monday, but first I have a deadline to make and some other stuff. I'll try to first to the i686 only packages and packages with bug reports open. Any help is of course welcome.
Ronald
2008/9/14 Ronald van Haren pressh@gmail.com:
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Allan McRae allan@archlinux.org wrote:
So... apart from suggestions about how the package difference page [1] could be improved, did anyone actually do some building for community64? The number of differences between the two arches is about as bad as I have ever seen it.
In particular, there seems to be a number of new packages added that are only present in i686 at the moment. If these are truly i686 only, please add them to the community 64 status wiki page [2] with a reason.
Thanks, Allan
[1] http://www.archlinux.de/?page=ArchitectureDifferences [2] http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Community64_Status
I'll try to make a bit of time on monday, but first I have a deadline to make and some other stuff. I'll try to first to the i686 only packages and packages with bug reports open. Any help is of course welcome.
Ronald
As of now (1533 UTC) the differences page is coming up blank.
I only looked at two packages so far:
* flobopuyo doesn't build on x86_64 fixed, added a couple of patches. I'll remove it from the list soon.
* warzone2100 doesn't work on x86_64 version 2.1_beta4 builds, though I'm not quite happy with the stability of it. In 15 minutes playing it crashed on me once and locked another time. Maybe somebody else can give it a try (you need to install quesogl from unsupported as a builddep first) to see if it is just my hardware as at least both gentoo and fedora have it at least somewhere in their repos. Thanks
On a general note, please don't add packages to the 'doesn't work on 64bit list' if it are just compile issues. Normally patches for it are just a few clicks away.
Ronald
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