On Wednesday 10 November 2010 11:54:26 Sergej Pupykin wrote:

* alltray * at * centerim * dia * distcc * dmenu * elinks * iptraf * mailman * mcrypt * motion * patchutils * perl-* * slmodem * slmodem-utils * squashfs-tools * twinkle * unarj * w3m * wmii * wput * xboard * xdialog * xpdf * xpdf-*

If noone wants to maintain them, I can do it in community. List updated, but if some DEV is interested he can keep them in [extra].

-- Andrea Scarpino Arch Linux Developer

On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 12:43:28 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote:

Am Wed, 10 Nov 2010 11:33:32 +0100 schrieb Andrea Scarpino :

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Hi DEVs/TUs, currently we have 700 (counting both arches and any) orphans packages in [extra]. As member of the orphans team, I made a list[1] of these packages and I'd like to move them to Unsupported. If some DEV wants to keep a package simply cross it out (adoption is not required, but it would be nice) or reply to this mail. If some TU wants to maintain a package in [community], please write the name into the "Candidate to [community]" section, *DO NOT* cross it out. Or reply to this mail.

I think that a week is enough time for this job. 17th November I will move the remaining packages to Unsupported and the candidates to [community].

Cheers

[1] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/DeveloperWiki:Repo_Cleanup

You should really think about that. There are many of the most important, oldest and best known packages in this list like dia, ding, xboard, eboard, epdfview, slmodem etc.

In other words, your list is likely the half of the distro.

If you would put all of them to AUR then you could give up Arch Linux, because then it has almost no advantage over Gentoo, that is, then will Arch Linux become a second Gentoo, because the users will have to compile a lot of (most of the) important packages manually.

And the reason why I switched from Gentoo to Arch Linux about 3 or 4 years ago after using Gentoo for about 6 years was that I was sick of compiling everything and that Arch Linux was a binary distribution.

So if you would really do this clean up and move all these packages to AUR then I could and most likely would switch back to Gentoo.

So really, please, reconsider your idea of doing this massive and pointless cleanup.

Btw., ding was updated recently.

Heiko

Please calm down and first of all: Nobody cares if you are switching to another distro. These packages are orphaned which means no dev or TU has an interest in maintaining them. These cleanups are also meant as some kind of reminder to adopt needed or popular packages. Keeping unmaintained packages is of no use; it'll also increase the workload on other e.g. on so name bump rebuilds. If people think some of these packages are important, they should simply step up and become a TU to maintain them. It's just that easy. Or look at it the other way: why should a dev or tu maintain a package that he does not use or is interested in? In the end we do this mostly for ourselves and not for anybody else. We could compare this list to pkgstats results to be able to look harder for a new maintainer for popular packages. -- Pierre Schmitz, https://users.archlinux.de/~pierre

On Wednesday 10 November 2010 22:27:43 Stefan Husmann wrote:

why are sawfish and rep-gtk on the list, but not librep? I think these packages belong together and should be maintained by the same person. I would like to maintain them in [community]. Because librep is maintained by Jurgen, but I think that he forgot to orphan it. Added librep to packages to remove from [extra] and librep, rep-gtk, sawfish to candidates to [community]. Thanks

-- Andrea Scarpino Arch Linux Developer