Hi, I was wondering if I could get my account unsuspended :) Best Regards, Gonçalo Pereira (G-Pereira)
Friday, June 14, 2019 4:07 AM +11:00 from Gonçalo Pereira via aur-general <aur-general@archlinux.org>:
Hi,
I was wondering if I could get my account unsuspended :)
Best Regards,
Gonçalo Pereira (G-Pereira)
Hi everyone, Robin (and other TUs), I vote for Goncalo AUR account will get unsuspended (if not yet). Sorry for this akin petition mail but personally I don't know Goncalo. I simply have read all the threads regarding his account suspension and I know the reason it was. But some time has gone and something changed... -- We are all sometimes doing strange things. As a heavy addicted Arch user I also ask you to unsuspend his AUR account and let maintainer do his job on a normal manner. Thanks in advance. -- Kind regards, Radislav (Radicchio) Golubtsov
Em junho 13, 2019 14:50 Radislav Golubtsov via aur-general escreveu:
Robin (and other TUs), I vote for Goncalo AUR account will get unsuspended (if not yet). Sorry for this akin petition mail but personally I don't know Goncalo. I simply have read all the threads regarding his account suspension and I know the reason it was.
Reading just the threads is not enough to understand the grounds for suspension. Comments and also AUR requests weighed in on this.
But some time has gone and something changed... -- We are all sometimes doing strange things.
As a heavy addicted Arch user I also ask you to unsuspend his AUR account and let maintainer do his job on a normal manner.
Thanks in advance.
Having said that, and not being involved at all with his suspension, I vote for us to lift it. I guess it goes without saying that the behavior that triggered the suspension in the first place will not be tolerated. Regards, Giancarlo Razzolini
We are all sometimes doing strange things I agree with this. I suspect Goncalo was/is being naive here. He
Hello Radislav and everyone! I am not sure I get a vote, but Aye! (Sorry, but had to use this quote :P) probably had no idea that one cannot just take over a package maintainership like that. Maybe he just liked the _said_ package and wanted to maintain it. It was definitely strange, but at least he was honest and didn't try to make another account and spam the same thing (I am not giving ideas). Other than that, he is still interested in trying to develop some packages (because he wants to get unblocked) and help the community. In my opinion, a six-month ban is sufficient for a person who wants to try the AUR out, and want to learn more about it. However, if he commits the same mistakes after giving out many warnings, then I'd say its time for a permanent banhammer. Regards Aniket Pradhan Byld Member ECE Undergrad | IIIT Delhi http://home.iiitd.edu.in/~aniket17133/ P.S. I just went through his orphan requests and a few comments and replies. Sorry if I don't know the whole story but just want to help a fellow peer and get him a second chance. :D
On 6/13/19 8:32 PM, Aniket Pradhan wrote:
Hello Radislav and everyone!
I am not sure I get a vote, but Aye! (Sorry, but had to use this quote :P)
We are all sometimes doing strange things I agree with this. I suspect Goncalo was/is being naive here. He probably had no idea that one cannot just take over a package maintainership like that.
This isn't the first time that has happened, it's not even the second time this has happened.
Maybe he just liked the _said_ package and wanted to maintain it. It was definitely strange, but at least he was honest and didn't try to make another account and spam the same thing (I am not giving ideas). Other than that, he is still interested in trying to develop some packages (because he wants to get unblocked) and help the community.
Besides this not being the first time, it's also not the only reason. There have been numerous dances on our bugtracker too, among other things.
In my opinion, a six-month ban is sufficient for a person who wants to try the AUR out, and want to learn more about it. However, if he commits the same mistakes after giving out many warnings, then I'd say its time for a permanent banhammer.
This has happened, and it's barely even been a full 6 months - with Goncalo requesting pardon every few weeks, like jeez. It's not even a real timeout - for us at least - if all that happens is that the annoyance shifts from the AUR & co to him begging on the ML.
Regards
Aniket Pradhan Byld Member ECE Undergrad | IIIT Delhi http://home.iiitd.edu.in/~aniket17133/
P.S. I just went through his orphan requests and a few comments and replies. Sorry if I don't know the whole story but just want to help a fellow peer and get him a second chance. :D
I encourage you to dig in the archives and read about the other issues. Get a more complete picture of the topic you're commenting on instead of looking at the last thread only... -- Rob (coderobe) O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
I get it that you're pissed off with me and I agreed with the reason that got me suspended and giving an overview of the requests I've made I can see how unproductive it was that kind of "contributions". At the moment it's just sad that I see a package broken or outdated and I can't even drop a comment calmly suggesting the change. I indeed got out of line but now I understand that this mailing list can serve to ask for opinions instead of just filing an orphan request. I don't plan to be a pain in the ass with the mailing list and I am not comfortable knowing that I am bothering you with this email. Overall I just mean that I understand that my way of interacting on AUR hasn't been all that great and even so I've been forgiven a lot. Hope you can understand my point. Best Regards, Gonçalo Pereira
Hi - On 6/13/19 8:57 PM, Gonçalo Pereira wrote:
I get it that you're pissed off with me and I agreed with the reason that got me suspended and giving an overview of the requests I've made I can see how unproductive it was that kind of "contributions". At the moment it's just sad that I see a package broken or outdated and I can't even drop a comment calmly suggesting the change. I indeed got out of line but now I understand that this mailing list can serve to ask for opinions instead of just filing an orphan request. I don't plan to be a pain in the ass with the mailing list and I am not comfortable knowing that I am bothering you with this email. Overall I just mean that I understand that my way of interacting on AUR hasn't been all that great and even so I've been forgiven a lot. Hope you can understand my point.
Best Regards, Gonçalo Pereira
I think this is actually worded fairly well, and (unlike some earlier mails) appears to be truly genuine. It's been a few months. I feel like you have improved since back then, and the other team members I've been chatting with share the same feeling - we've come to the conclusion that we'll give you another chance. This, however, is gonna be your last one - no warnings. I'll unsuspend you at some point tomorrow (Friday, CEST), please use the remaining few hours of your suspension to reflect on this issue. So, anyways, welcome back. And good (universal greeting time) night. -- Rob (coderobe) O< ascii ribbon campaign - stop html mail - www.asciiribbon.org
There have been numerous dances on our bugtracker too, among other things. Had no idea about that. :(
This has happened, and it's barely even been a full 6 months - with Goncalo requesting pardon every few weeks, like jeez. It's not even a real timeout - for us at least - if all that happens is that the annoyance shifts from the AUR & co to him begging on the ML. It's all up to the (you) TUs and the mods (mods == TUs? right). :)
I encourage you to dig in the archives and read about the other issues. Get a more complete picture of the topic you're commenting on instead of looking at the last thread only... Sure will. The only reason I replied was that I remember seeing his previous emails and this time I really felt bad for the guy. :/
Regards Aniket Pradhan http://home.iiitd.edu.in/~aniket17133/
participants (5)
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Aniket Pradhan
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Giancarlo Razzolini
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Gonçalo Pereira
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Radislav Golubtsov
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Robin Broda