Hi,
I plan to remove all AUR accounts that have not been used for at least 500 days (according to the last login time stamp). This affects ~35000 users, see [1] for a complete list. If your account is on that list and you think it shouldn't be there, please let me know.
Side effects:
* The ~2000 packages maintained by these users will be orphaned. * All ~20000 comments written by any of the users will be removed. * Votes will be retained.
Regards, Lukas
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 at 13:17:25, Lukas Fleischer wrote:
Hi,
I plan to remove all AUR accounts that have not been used for at least 500 days (according to the last login time stamp). This affects ~35000 users, see [1] for a complete list. If your account is on that list and you think it shouldn't be there, please let me know.
Ok, it seems like this last sentence wasn't clear enough. Please DO NOT send me mails if you haven't logged in for a long time but want to keep your account. In that case, just log in to update the login time stamp.
However, please notify me if you actually used your account within the last 500 days and your account is on that list anyway.
[...]
On Jan 31, 2014 7:17 AM, "Lukas Fleischer" archlinux@cryptocrack.de wrote:
Hi,
I plan to remove all AUR accounts that have not been used for at least 500 days (according to the last login time stamp). This affects ~35000 users, see [1] for a complete list. If your account is on that list and you think it shouldn't be there, please let me know.
Side effects:
- The ~2000 packages maintained by these users will be orphaned.
Can we get a list of these packages? If for no other reason than exposure to active people on this list who may want to adopt, but I also suspect that we can probably just purge a bunch of these anyways.
- All ~20000 comments written by any of the users will be removed.
- Votes will be retained.
Regards, Lukas
Am 31.01.2014 14:42, schrieb Dave Reisner:
On Jan 31, 2014 7:17 AM, "Lukas Fleischer" archlinux@cryptocrack.de wrote:
[...]
Side effects:
- The ~2000 packages maintained by these users will be orphaned.
Can we get a list of these packages?[...]
As nobody with the power to do sql-fu on the AUR server created a list yet, an ordinary mortal has to step in. This is the list of packages in alphabetical order: http://arch.carsten-teibes.de/aur-stuff/aur-cleanup-02-2014/packages_to_orph...
This lists them by Maintainer: http://arch.carsten-teibes.de/aur-stuff/aur-cleanup-02-2014/packages_to_orph...
I have queried the AUR RPC interface (yay, 35k requests!) for this list, ignored all maintainers without packages and give no warranty that it is correct or complete. I hope that it is useful for someone.
Btw. I also provide plaintext (s/html/txt/) and Markdown (s/html/md/) versions of both lists.
best regards, carstene1ns
On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 07:57:32PM +0100, carstene1ns wrote:
Am 31.01.2014 14:42, schrieb Dave Reisner:
On Jan 31, 2014 7:17 AM, "Lukas Fleischer" archlinux@cryptocrack.de wrote:
[...]
Side effects:
- The ~2000 packages maintained by these users will be orphaned.
Can we get a list of these packages?[...]
As nobody with the power to do sql-fu on the AUR server created a list yet, an ordinary mortal has to step in. This is the list of packages in alphabetical order: http://arch.carsten-teibes.de/aur-stuff/aur-cleanup-02-2014/packages_to_orph...
This lists them by Maintainer: http://arch.carsten-teibes.de/aur-stuff/aur-cleanup-02-2014/packages_to_orph...
I have queried the AUR RPC interface (yay, 35k requests!) for this list, ignored all maintainers without packages and give no warranty that it is correct or complete. I hope that it is useful for someone.
Btw. I also provide plaintext (s/html/txt/) and Markdown (s/html/md/) versions of both lists.
best regards, carstene1ns
Actually, I got this list from Lukas a few hours after I mentioned it. But, thanks!
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 13:17:25 +0100 Lukas Fleischer archlinux@cryptocrack.de wrote:
- All ~20000 comments written by any of the users will be removed.
Removing comments might lead to disconnected discussions in the comments...
On Jan 31, 2014 9:18 AM, "Joakim Hernberg" jbh@alchemy.lu wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 13:17:25 +0100 Lukas Fleischer archlinux@cryptocrack.de wrote:
- All ~20000 comments written by any of the users will be removed.
Removing comments might lead to disconnected discussions in the comments...
Can you find an example of a 2 year old comment which is still relevant?
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Joakim
Can you find an example of a 2 year old comment which is still relevant?
Maybe all comments older than 2 years should be removed? 2 years old comments are irrelevant regardless of user being currently active or not.
Nowaker wrote:
Maybe all comments older than 2 years should be removed? 2 years old comments are irrelevant regardless of user being currently active or not.
I agree that if you are going to remove old comments then you should remove all old comments.
I also think that you should remove the votes with the accounts (if possible). Otherwise you end up with a pool of unrescindable votes.
Regards, Xyne
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On 31.1.2014 15:34, Nowaker wrote:
Can you find an example of a 2 year old comment which is still relevant?
Maybe all comments older than 2 years should be removed? 2 years old comments are irrelevant regardless of user being currently active or not.
What of comments older than two or more years which comment on packages that haven't been updated upstream for two or more years, and thus haven't been (probably) updated in the AUR for the same amount of time, but are still usable? Delete all packages older than two years? It's a destructive decision...
On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 5:51 PM, Никола Вукосављевић hauzer@gmx.com wrote:
On 31.1.2014 15:34, Nowaker wrote:
Can you find an example of a 2 year old comment which is still relevant?
Maybe all comments older than 2 years should be removed? 2 years old comments are irrelevant regardless of user being currently active or not.
What of comments older than two or more years which comment on packages that haven't been updated upstream for two or more years, and thus haven't been (probably) updated in the AUR for the same amount of time, but are still usable? Delete all packages older than two years? It's a destructive decision...
Sure, they might be usable, but I bet a large number of those old packages very poorly conform to PKGBUILD best practices (e.g. no use of ${startdir}, no package() function, no pkgver() function for VCS packages, etc.).
Eventually, pacman will likely be dropping support for PKGBUILD's without a package() function, so at some point in the future, the TUs will probably have to do a mass deletion of old packages anyway.
Jason
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 09:25:04 -0500 Dave Reisner d@falconindy.com wrote:
Can you find an example of a 2 year old comment which is still relevant?
I'm not even going to try, was just an observation...
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 at 13:17:25, Lukas Fleischer wrote:
Hi,
I plan to remove all AUR accounts that have not been used for at least 500 days (according to the last login time stamp). This affects ~35000 users, see [1] for a complete list. If your account is on that list and you think it shouldn't be there, please let me know.
Side effects:
- The ~2000 packages maintained by these users will be orphaned.
- All ~20000 comments written by any of the users will be removed.
- Votes will be retained.
[...]
After some reconsideration, I think it is better to do this the other way round. Comments will be retained (support for this will be added with a patch I just submitted to aur-dev [1]) and votes will be removed. We can still do comment cleanups later if we want to.
Regards, Lukas
[1] https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-dev/2014-February/002646.html
On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 19:02:14 +0100 Lukas Fleischer archlinux@cryptocrack.de wrote:
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 at 13:17:25, Lukas Fleischer wrote:
I plan to remove all AUR accounts that have not been used for at least 500 days (according to the last login time stamp). This affects ~35000 users, see [1] for a complete list. If your account is on that list and you think it shouldn't be there, please let me know.
After some reconsideration, I think it is better to do this the other way round. Comments will be retained (support for this will be added with a patch I just submitted to aur-dev [1]) and votes will be removed. We can still do comment cleanups later if we want to.
That sounds like a much cleaner way. Thanks for reconsidering!
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014 at 13:17:25, Lukas Fleischer wrote:
Hi,
I plan to remove all AUR accounts that have not been used for at least 500 days (according to the last login time stamp). This affects ~35000 users, see [1] for a complete list. If your account is on that list and you think it shouldn't be there, please let me know.
Just noticed that there are some developer accounts on that list. I will exclude them from the list of accounts being purged.
Side effects:
- The ~2000 packages maintained by these users will be orphaned.
- All ~20000 comments written by any of the users will be removed.
- Votes will be retained.
Regards, Lukas
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