[aur-general] TU e-mail forwards (was: Re: Welcome our newest TU, Lukas Jirkovsky (stativ)!)

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Ray Rashif

3 Sep 2010 3 Sep '10

5:21 p.m.

2010/9/2 Lukáš Jirkovský :

I forgot to write that I already tried username@aur.archlinux.org and username.aur@archlinux.org but both without success.

Those may not be working. (someone on Gerolde needs a nudge?) Could you all add a ~/.forward on Sigurd with your (real, unmangled) e-mail address and send a test mail to check if it works? Else, you guys can always strive to keep this one updated as an alternative to the profile information: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trusted_Users I'm also in favour of standardising the mangling used there; personal preference, right, but currently it looks like a mess. -- GPG/PGP ID: B42DDCAD

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Ionuț Bîru

3 Sep 3 Sep

5:53 p.m.

New subject: [aur-general] TU e-mail forwards (was: Re: Welcome our newest TU, Lukas Jirkovsky (stativ)!)

On 09/03/2010 06:21 PM, Ray Rashif wrote:

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2010/9/2 Lukáš Jirkovský:

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I forgot to write that I already tried username@aur.archlinux.org and username.aur@archlinux.org but both without success.

Those may not be working. (someone on Gerolde needs a nudge?)

Could you all add a ~/.forward on Sigurd with your (real, unmangled) e-mail address and send a test mail to check if it works?

it wont work. if someone needs emails @aur.archlinux.org would need to buzz Aaron. the email server is on gerolde not on sigurd.

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Else, you guys can always strive to keep this one updated as an alternative to the profile information:

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Trusted_Users

I'm also in favour of standardising the mangling used there; personal preference, right, but currently it looks like a mess.

-- GPG/PGP ID: B42DDCAD

-- Ionuț

Ray Rashif

6:01 p.m.

New subject: [aur-general] TU e-mail forwards (was: Re: Welcome our newest TU, Lukas Jirkovsky (stativ)!)

On 3 September 2010 23:53, Ionuț Bîru wrote:

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it wont work.

if someone needs emails @aur.archlinux.org would need to buzz Aaron. the email server is on gerolde not on sigurd.

Oops, that's right, the forwards need to be manually added on Gerolde. That settles and confirms this as "not working", so either someone updates the profiles or everyone concerned nudges Aaron. -- GPG/PGP ID: B42DDCAD

Florian Pritz

6:12 p.m.

New subject: [aur-general] TU e-mail forwards (was: Re: Welcome our newest TU, Lukas Jirkovsky (stativ)!)

On 03.09.2010 17:21, Ray Rashif wrote:

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I'm also in favour of standardising the mangling used there; personal preference, right, but currently it looks like a mess.

Don't obfuscate the addresses at all. If your mail provider isn't able to reject spam you should really consider switching. Obviously google does a really bad job there or is there some other reason most gmail addresses are obfuscated? Also if you guys decide to obfuscate every address please don't forget the PKGBUILDS, bugtracker profile, mailinglist archives. Also keep in mind most bots can decode "foo AT bar DOT com" and similar by now. -- Florian Pritz -- {flo,bluewind}@server-speed.net

Ray Rashif

6:33 p.m.

New subject: [aur-general] TU e-mail forwards (was: Re: Welcome our newest TU, Lukas Jirkovsky (stativ)!)

On 4 September 2010 00:12, Florian Pritz wrote:

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On 03.09.2010 17:21, Ray Rashif wrote:

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I'm also in favour of standardising the mangling used there; personal preference, right, but currently it looks like a mess.

Don't obfuscate the addresses at all.

If your mail provider isn't able to reject spam you should really consider switching. Obviously google does a really bad job there or is there some other reason most gmail addresses are obfuscated?

Also if you guys decide to obfuscate every address please don't forget the PKGBUILDS, bugtracker profile, mailinglist archives. Also keep in mind most bots can decode "foo AT bar DOT com" and similar by now.

They can also parse patterns, and in the event everyone follows the same mangling style, that would be made easier. At the same time, all kinds of individual mangled addresses are vulnerable as well. So neither way is better than the other. So in general, I agree with you (that mangling is a moot point), just that it's for the peace of mind that I choose to obfuscate addresses on a page easily accessible by search engines, but not for eg., PKGBUILDs in the repositories (under version control). The web interface for packages, if you notice, does not show the e-mail address for either Maintainer or Packager. The AUR, on the other hand, offers the PKGBUILD for direct viewing. I couldn't care less about that too. My GMail inbox is pretty clean, in that the Spam folder has everything unwanted out of my sight. This can be attributed to my aggressive attitude towards unknown senders, i.e immediate "junking". I've seen other inboxes full of rubbish, especially if they're not used on a regular basis. -- GPG/PGP ID: B42DDCAD

Isaac Dupree

5 Sep 5 Sep

8:23 p.m.

New subject: [aur-general] TU e-mail forwards (was: Re: Welcome our newest TU, Lukas Jirkovsky (stativ)!)

On 09/03/10 12:12, Florian Pritz wrote:

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On 03.09.2010 17:21, Ray Rashif wrote:

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I'm also in favour of standardising the mangling used there; personal preference, right, but currently it looks like a mess.

Don't obfuscate the addresses at all.

If your mail provider isn't able to reject spam you should really consider switching. Obviously google does a really bad job there or is there some other reason most gmail addresses are obfuscated?

No spam filter can junk 100% of the spam and not-junk 100% of the non-spam, this world doesn't work quite perfectly that way, although filters can be pretty good currently. My strategy: create a special e-mail address for use un-obfuscated on Internet technical sites (mailinglist, bugtracker, source-code commit, whatever), knowing that it will be spammed; and use a different e-mail address to give to people I know, knowing that - while it *might* get into the hands of spammers through viruses and the like - it won't be as spammy as an address that's published on the internet (so that the probability improves that neither the spam-filter nor my eyes will consider a message from someone I know from corporeal life to be spam.) -Isaac

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