I could use an AUR helper except that I'm fundamentally opposed to them ;) -- David Phillips GPG Key 0x7BF3D17D0884BF5B Fingerprint 2426 235A 7831 AA2F 56AF 4BC0 7BF3 D17D 0884 BF5B

On 11/04/2014 04:20 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 12:12:01 +1300 David Phillips wrote:

I don't know which helper to use to search the AUR, but my experiences with updating from AUR by using yaourt are very good. I don't understand why some people are against such helpers.

yaourt rocks :) no it's not perfect, but it's pretty sweet 999 times out of 1000. *dons flame retardant gear* -- Thanks, John D Jones III UNIX Zealot; Perl Lover unixgeek1972@gmail.com jnbek1972@gmail.com http://zoelife4u.org/ Where Earth and Spirit Unite

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 12:25:10 +1300 David Phillips wrote:

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I don't understand why some people are against such helpers.

Without veering too far off this thread's topic, there's a large number of discussions on the web which cover this.

So assumed there would be a helper that provides the kind of search you need, you won't use it, as a matter of principle and because there are freakish discussions about helpers? Assumed somebody can recommend a good helper to search the AUR, I'm willing to test it. On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 16:22:26 -0700 John D Jones III wrote:

yaourt rocks :) no it's not perfect, but it's pretty sweet 999 times out of 1000.

:) Yes, it isn't perfect, but it makes maintaining installs from AUR much easier, than without such a tool.

On 05/11, David Phillips wrote:

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So assumed there would be a helper that provides the kind of search you need, you won't use it, as a matter of principle and because there are freakish discussions about helpers?

If (more or less) all it did was search the AUR, then I would look at using it. But the regex thing is such a trivial thing to implement on the AUR search.

All cower does is 1) Search the AUR 2) show info for packages a la -Si 3) Download and untar aurballs (Optionally also downloading any AUR dependencies) -- Sincerely, Johannes Löthberg PGP Key ID: 0x50FB9B273A9D0BB5 https://theos.kyriasis.com/~kyrias/

On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 12:38:24AM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

Assumed somebody can recommend a good helper to search the AUR, I'm willing to test it.

I don't know if any AUR helpers support this, but you can just get a list of all AUR packages with this command and then pipe to grep to match by regex. curl http://cryptocrack.de/files/aurpkglist.txt.gz | zcat | awk 'NR>1{gsub("%2B","+");print $1}'

On 04/11/14 06:38 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 12:25:10 +1300 David Phillips wrote:

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I don't understand why some people are against such helpers.

Without veering too far off this thread's topic, there's a large number of discussions on the web which cover this.

So assumed there would be a helper that provides the kind of search you need, you won't use it, as a matter of principle and because there are freakish discussions about helpers?

Is opposition to AUR helpers really so hard to believe? A few years ago, there were a lot of people posting comments about "the build system being broken" when they were actually experiencing bugs in yaourt. More on topic: if this gets implemented, I will again ask for typeahead suggestions to be removed as they would not be very good at predicting all the regex searches that can be tried.

On Wed, 5 Nov 2014 00:05:46 +0100 Karol Blazewicz wrote:

You can use an AUR helper.

Please, could you be more precise? If I tell people that I use yaourt, they often are terrified that I do this. What from those helpers https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_helpers do you recommend for searching the AUR?