[aur-general] Discussion regarding TU Swiergot
Over the last few months, I have noticed that TU Swiergot has neglected his packages in community. I first noticed this with the cinelerra-cv package which was several months out of date and using the now-defunct cvs repo (cinelerra-cv switched to git two months ago). I posted a cinelerra-cv-git package to the AUR and attempted several times to contact him. Two months went by and I got no reply from any of the several addresses he has, so I discussed the situation with another TU, then updated his cinelerra-cv package and sent him another email notifying him of the update. I have since taken a look through his packages and the bugtracker. He has several packages marked out of date (and some have comments explaining fixes), as well as a handful of open bugs on the bugtracker. Since I have been unable to contact him through any means, I propose orphaning his packages so that more available TUs can take over the responsibility for them. There are several that I would be happy to take over (assaultcube, cinelerra-cv, cube, dosemu, fcrackzip, nexuiz, qemu-launcher, stegdetect, steghide, supertux and maybe a few others), and some of his packages (including some of the ones i'll take) should be dropped to the AUR. Discuss
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 13:51, Ghost1227 <ghost1227@archlinux.us> wrote:
Over the last few months, I have noticed that TU Swiergot has neglected his packages in community. I first noticed this with the cinelerra-cv package which was several months out of date and using the now-defunct cvs repo (cinelerra-cv switched to git two months ago). I posted a cinelerra-cv-git package to the AUR and attempted several times to contact him. Two months went by and I got no reply from any of the several addresses he has, so I discussed the situation with another TU, then updated his cinelerra-cv package and sent him another email notifying him of the update. I have since taken a look through his packages and the bugtracker. He has several packages marked out of date (and some have comments explaining fixes), as well as a handful of open bugs on the bugtracker. Since I have been unable to contact him through any means, I propose orphaning his packages so that more available TUs can take over the responsibility for them. There are several that I would be happy to take over (assaultcube, cinelerra-cv, cube, dosemu, fcrackzip, nexuiz, qemu-launcher, stegdetect, steghide, supertux and maybe a few others), and some of his packages (including some of the ones i'll take) should be dropped to the AUR.
Discuss
If he's been inactive that long (and iirc without notice) then according to the TU bylaws, he should be removed as a TU.
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Daenyth Blank <daenyth+arch@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 13:51, Ghost1227 <ghost1227@archlinux.us> wrote:
Over the last few months, I have noticed that TU Swiergot has neglected his packages in community. I first noticed this with the cinelerra-cv package which was several months out of date and using the now-defunct cvs repo (cinelerra-cv switched to git two months ago). I posted a cinelerra-cv-git package to the AUR and attempted several times to contact him. Two months went by and I got no reply from any of the several addresses he has, so I discussed the situation with another TU, then updated his cinelerra-cv package and sent him another email notifying him of the update. I have since taken a look through his packages and the bugtracker. He has several packages marked out of date (and some have comments explaining fixes), as well as a handful of open bugs on the bugtracker. Since I have been unable to contact him through any means, I propose orphaning his packages so that more available TUs can take over the responsibility for them. There are several that I would be happy to take over (assaultcube, cinelerra-cv, cube, dosemu, fcrackzip, nexuiz, qemu-launcher, stegdetect, steghide, supertux and maybe a few others), and some of his packages (including some of the ones i'll take) should be dropped to the AUR.
Discuss
If he's been inactive that long (and iirc without notice) then according to the TU bylaws, he should be removed as a TU.
is this an actual removal discussion or what is the topic of this discussion? Ronald
Ronald van Haren wrote:
On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Daenyth Blank <daenyth+arch@gmail.com> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 13:51, Ghost1227 <ghost1227@archlinux.us> wrote:
Over the last few months, I have noticed that TU Swiergot has neglected his packages in community. I first noticed this with the cinelerra-cv package which was several months out of date and using the now-defunct cvs repo (cinelerra-cv switched to git two months ago). I posted a cinelerra-cv-git package to the AUR and attempted several times to contact him. Two months went by and I got no reply from any of the several addresses he has, so I discussed the situation with another TU, then updated his cinelerra-cv package and sent him another email notifying him of the update. I have since taken a look through his packages and the bugtracker. He has several packages marked out of date (and some have comments explaining fixes), as well as a handful of open bugs on the bugtracker. Since I have been unable to contact him through any means, I propose orphaning his packages so that more available TUs can take over the responsibility for them. There are several that I would be happy to take over (assaultcube, cinelerra-cv, cube, dosemu, fcrackzip, nexuiz, qemu-launcher, stegdetect, steghide, supertux and maybe a few others), and some of his packages (including some of the ones i'll take) should be dropped to the AUR.
Discuss
If he's been inactive that long (and iirc without notice) then according to the TU bylaws, he should be removed as a TU.
is this an actual removal discussion or what is the topic of this discussion?
Ronald
Well my initial intent was simply to turn over his packages (or at least the outdated ones) to people who are actually available to handle them. However, Daenyth brings up a good point and perhaps this should be an actual removal discussion. After several months of trying to contact a TU, and several other TUs not even knowing who he is... I'd say it's a safe bet he's been inactive a while. Have to actually look at the logs/ML archive to see for sure though.
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 01:51:43PM -0500, Ghost1227 wrote:
Over the last few months, I have noticed that TU Swiergot has neglected his packages in community. I first noticed this with the cinelerra-cv package which was several months out of date and using the now-defunct cvs repo (cinelerra-cv switched to git two months ago). I posted a cinelerra-cv-git package to the AUR and attempted several times to contact him. Two months went by and I got no reply from any of the several addresses he has, so I discussed the situation with another TU, then updated his cinelerra-cv package and sent him another email notifying him of the update. I have since taken a look through his packages and the bugtracker. He has several packages marked out of date (and some have comments explaining fixes), as well as a handful of open bugs on the bugtracker. Since I have been unable to contact him through any means, I propose orphaning his packages so that more available TUs can take over the responsibility for them. There are several that I would be happy to take over (assaultcube, cinelerra-cv, cube, dosemu, fcrackzip, nexuiz, qemu-launcher, stegdetect, steghide, supertux and maybe a few others), and some of his packages (including some of the ones i'll take) should be dropped to the AUR.
Discuss
Yeah sounds good. TUs should be just as accountable as regular users. If he hasn't responded to emails about outdated packages, let others adopt those packages. Does swiergot appear active according to TU votes? Well, actually the bylaws state that we remove TUs only if they have prevented a vote from reaching quorum. But so far all votes have made it. So we can keep him for now if he does reappear.
Loui Chang wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 01:51:43PM -0500, Ghost1227 wrote:
Over the last few months, I have noticed that TU Swiergot has neglected his packages in community. I first noticed this with the cinelerra-cv package which was several months out of date and using the now-defunct cvs repo (cinelerra-cv switched to git two months ago). I posted a cinelerra-cv-git package to the AUR and attempted several times to contact him. Two months went by and I got no reply from any of the several addresses he has, so I discussed the situation with another TU, then updated his cinelerra-cv package and sent him another email notifying him of the update. I have since taken a look through his packages and the bugtracker. He has several packages marked out of date (and some have comments explaining fixes), as well as a handful of open bugs on the bugtracker. Since I have been unable to contact him through any means, I propose orphaning his packages so that more available TUs can take over the responsibility for them. There are several that I would be happy to take over (assaultcube, cinelerra-cv, cube, dosemu, fcrackzip, nexuiz, qemu-launcher, stegdetect, steghide, supertux and maybe a few others), and some of his packages (including some of the ones i'll take) should be dropped to the AUR.
Discuss
Yeah sounds good. TUs should be just as accountable as regular users. If he hasn't responded to emails about outdated packages, let others adopt those packages. Does swiergot appear active according to TU votes?
I think you are the only person who can tell this since we switched to voting on the AUR. Care to look?
Well, actually the bylaws state that we remove TUs only if they have prevented a vote from reaching quorum. But so far all votes have made it. So we can keep him for now if he does reappear.
Relevant section from the bylaws: If a TU becomes inactive without declaring it, "disappears", someone must motion for their removal for reason of unwarranted and undeclared inactivity, and the normal procedure for the motion is followed. Allan
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 13:51 -0500, Ghost1227 wrote:
Over the last few months, I have noticed that TU Swiergot has neglected his packages in community. I first noticed this with the cinelerra-cv package which was several months out of date and using the now-defunct cvs repo (cinelerra-cv switched to git two months ago). I posted a cinelerra-cv-git package to the AUR and attempted several times to contact him. Two months went by and I got no reply from any of the several addresses he has, so I discussed the situation with another TU, then updated his cinelerra-cv package and sent him another email notifying him of the update. I have since taken a look through his packages and the bugtracker. He has several packages marked out of date (and some have comments explaining fixes), as well as a handful of open bugs on the bugtracker. Since I have been unable to contact him through any means, I propose orphaning his packages so that more available TUs can take over the responsibility for them. There are several that I would be happy to take over (assaultcube, cinelerra-cv, cube, dosemu, fcrackzip, nexuiz, qemu-launcher, stegdetect, steghide, supertux and maybe a few others), and some of his packages (including some of the ones i'll take) should be dropped to the AUR.
Discuss
i'd love to get tuxcmd if it's ever moved to AUR, i've already prepared a pkgbuild that compiles from source (rather than just copy-paste the binary stuff) cheers :)
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Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:24:22 +0100 Subject: Re: [aur-general] Discussion regarding TU Swiergot From: M Rawash <mrawash@gmail.com> To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" <aur-general@archlinux.org>
On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 13:51 -0500, Ghost1227 wrote:
Over the last few months, I have noticed that TU Swiergot has neglected his packages in community. I first noticed this with the cinelerra-cv package which was several months out of date and using the now-defunct cvs repo (cinelerra-cv switched to git two months ago). I posted a cinelerra-cv-git package to the AUR and attempted several times to contact him. Two months went by and I got no reply from any of the several addresses he has, so I discussed the situation with another TU, then updated his cinelerra-cv package and sent him another email notifying him of the update. I have since taken a look through his packages and the bugtracker. He has several packages marked out of date (and some have comments explaining fixes), as well as a handful of open bugs on the bugtracker. Since I have been unable to contact him through any means, I propose orphaning his packages so that more available TUs can take over the responsibility for them. There are several that I would be happy to take over (assaultcube, cinelerra-cv, cube, dosemu, fcrackzip, nexuiz, qemu-launcher, stegdetect, steghide, supertux and maybe a few others), and some of his packages (including some of the ones i'll take) should be dropped to the AUR.
Discuss
i'd love to get tuxcmd if it's ever moved to AUR, i've already prepared a pkgbuild that compiles from source (rather than just copy-paste the binary stuff)
cheers :)
Hello, interesting, I do not know any PKGBUILDs for Pascal written stuff. Maybe we could write a wiki article about how to do so. Regards Stefan
On Sat, 2009-02-21 at 22:01 +0100, stefan-husmann@t-online.de wrote:
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Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:24:22 +0100 Subject: Re: [aur-general] Discussion regarding TU Swiergot From: M Rawash <mrawash@gmail.com> To: "Discussion about the Arch User Repository (AUR)" <aur-general@archlinux.org>
i'd love to get tuxcmd if it's ever moved to AUR, i've already prepared a pkgbuild that compiles from source (rather than just copy-paste the binary stuff)
cheers :)
Hello,
interesting, I do not know any PKGBUILDs for Pascal written stuff. Maybe we could write a wiki article about how to do so.
Regards Stefan
afaik there are plenty of them around, they mainly depend on either Lazarus (IDE, for RAD stuff) and/or fpc-src (the actual libs+compiler). I think it was kinda lazy of the packager to go directly for the binaries..
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Allan McRae
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Daenyth Blank
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Ghost1227
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Loui Chang
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M Rawash
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Ronald van Haren
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