I just get: "error: target not found: libgcrypt11" Where libgcrypt11 is the package that is in AUR. Thanks! On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Javier Domingo Cansino <javierdo1@gmail.com> wrote:

You just mark it as a dependency in the PKGBUILD

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 2:07 PM Ole Jon Bjørkum <mail@olejon.net> wrote:

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Hi.

What is the correct way to install a dependency if the dependency package is in AUR? Can I do it in the .install file?

Regards, Ole Jon

Is it okay to do it in the prepare() function in PKGBUILD? I did it like this and it works: wget https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/snapshot/libgcrypt11.tar.gz -O $srcdir/libgcrypt11.tar.gz tar -zxvf $srcdir/libgcrypt11.tar.gz cd $srcdir/libgcrypt11 makepkg -sri Thanks! On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Giancarlo Razzolini <grazzolini@gmail.com> wrote:

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What is the correct way to install a dependency if the dependency

Em 04-11-2015 12:06, Ole Jon Bjørkum escreveu: package

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is in AUR? Can I do it in the .install file?

No, you can't do it in the .install file. The user is expected to either use an AUR helper or to download the PKGBUILD for each dependency (and sub dependencies, and so on) and install them before installing your package, them being on AUR or on the official repos.

Cheers, Giancarlo Razzolini

Is it okay to do it in the prepare() function in PKGBUILD?

I did it like this and it works You declare the needed packages in depends. Just that. If you are having

Em 04-11-2015 13:35, Ole Jon Bjørkum escreveu: trouble installing your own packages, please use an AUR helper. It will take care of the dependencies. And follow the packaging guidelines that are on the wiki. Cheers, Giancarlo Razzolini

Thanks. I am well aware of AUR packaging. I just hadn't built a package with a dependency that is in AUR, not in the repos. This package is not for me, but for uploading to AUR. So you are suggesting I use the PKGBUILD of the depdency package as a template in my own PKBUILD to build it, then? Thanks! On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 4:47 PM, G. Schlisio <g.schlisio@dukun.de> wrote:

Am 04.11.2015 um 16:35 schrieb Ole Jon Bjørkum:

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Is it okay to do it in the prepare() function in PKGBUILD?

I did it like this and it works:

wget https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/snapshot/libgcrypt11.tar.gz -O $srcdir/libgcrypt11.tar.gz tar -zxvf $srcdir/libgcrypt11.tar.gz cd $srcdir/libgcrypt11 makepkg -sri

Thanks!

ok, at first: welcome to archlinux. it seems you are bloody new here. why dont you take your time to read some starter info in the wiki, before getting deeper into things? an (incomplete) recommendation:

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pkgbuild

you should read and understand concepts like dependencies/shared libraries and then check back (use forums and mail archives first, please) if questions remain.

also, if posting on the mailing lists of archlinux, please bottom post (post your reply under the respective message). you also do not need to quote the entire message or even the whole conversation.

hope, this helps.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 5:00 PM, G. Schlisio <g.schlisio@dukun.de> wrote:

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Thanks. I am well aware of AUR packaging. I just hadn't built a package with a dependency that is in AUR, not in the repos.

This package is not for me, but for uploading to AUR.

So you are suggesting I use the PKGBUILD of the depdency package as a template in my own PKBUILD to build it, then?

Thanks!

1) seriously, please bottom post!

2) no, i did suggest you to read the wiki page. i am not sure, but i guess you think there is some kind of difference in package handling depending on its source - which isnt true. [0] is what you need, whereever that package will come from.

[0] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pkgbuild#depends

1) Sorry! Hope it's okay now. Gmail default. 2) "depends" in PKGBUILD doesn't work as the package is only in AUR, causing an error when running makepkg. The package needs libgcrypt11 which is only in AUR. 3) I think some of the language here is a bit unnecessary, like "Just build the damned package, how hard is that?" can be changed to "Just build the package", and "it seems you are bloody new here" can be changed to "it seems you are new here" (BTW: Thanks for the "welcome..." and links etc.). I know how the language usually is on Linux mailing lists, but why should we scare people away. People just gets tired and goes away (other distro or OS) when getting such comments. I'll make my package build the library instead, or add to my wiki page that people should install libgcrypt11 from AUR when installing my package, or else it won't work. I'll prefer the first option, because then only one package would have to be installed. However it will have to conflict with libcrypt11 if the user already has it installed... What do you suggest is the best option? Regards, Ole Jon

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 5:38 PM, Doug Newgard <scimmia@archlinux.info> wrote:

Full stop. This is what you're not understanding, putting it in the depends array tells the user this already.

Yes, that is true, it will output an error. I guess Arch Linux users are skilled enough to go directly to AUR to check, is that what you mean? I fear people will complain the package is not working, that's just it. When makepkg outputs the error that the dependency can not be resolve, can I output a message saying the should install it from AUR? Thanks!

On 11/04/2015 05:43 PM, Ole Jon Bjørkum wrote:

Yes, that is true, it will output an error. I guess Arch Linux users are skilled enough to go directly to AUR to check, is that what you mean? I fear people will complain the package is not working, that's just it. When makepkg outputs the error that the dependency can not be resolve, can I output a message saying the should install it from AUR?

Thanks!

No, please don't even try to, just add the depends() and thats it.

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Ole Jon Bjørkum <mail@olejon.net> wrote:

Martti Kühne: Very mature. Please read my previous post about the language here. Trying to be polite here.

I tried, right there. After Doug and Levente and Tinu and everyone and I kept telling you the same, there's really nothing more to add. This is hopefully the end of the thread. cheers! mar77i

Am 04.11.2015 um 17:52 schrieb Ole Jon Bjørkum:

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 5:46 PM, Levente Polyak <anthraxx@archlinux.org> wrote:

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No, please don't even try to, just add the depends() and thats it.

Ok, then that's it. Just trying to improve the AUR here guys, correcting my package after a complaint that my package's .install script did some stuff it shouldn't.

I'll also add to my package wiki that users should install libgcrypt11 from AUR first to make it as easy as possible for newbies.

Martti Kühne: Very mature. Please read my previous post about the language here. Trying to be polite here.

Regards, Ole Jon

ok, i'll try to explain. you seem to have a whole bunch of misconceptions about archlinux, the aur and packaging, and try to work around arising problems. working around problems is good. what is annoying people here is that you seem not to see they point you at your misconceptions. i believe, you could resolve them by reading a good part of the wiki, so i suggested a starting point. your basic misunderstanding is about how aur packages interact. basically, makepkg is not responsible for resolving dependencies - the user is. what you are trying is to make makepkg do something it isnt supposed to do. many peoble use aur helpers (see [0]), which handle dependencies for them. others do it by hand. but makepkg is never in charge of that. you could build a package with the --nodeps option, which makes makepkg omit dependency resolving and just yields you a package. [0] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_helpers

On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Ralf Mardorf <info.mardorf@rocketmail.com> wrote:

Simply recommend to use a helper, e.g.

https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/yaourt/

once yaourt is installed, the newbie could run

yaourt -S foo

However, the newbie should be aware that an upgraded library might require to rebuild software from AUR against the new library version.

FWIW yaourt sometimes could fail when building in tmpfs.

Regards, Ralf

I will add that as an option for those who want to use helpers. I use yaourt myself. Nothing more to add to this thread now. Thanks everyone!

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On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 17:43:31 +0100 Ole Jon Bjørkum <mail@olejon.net> wrote:

If they can't figure out that AUR packages may depend on other AUR packages, they really have no business running Arch.

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On 05/11/15 11:15, Félix Piédallu wrote:

Le 04/11/2015 17:50, Doug Newgard a écrit :

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On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 17:43:31 +0100 Ole Jon Bjørkum <mail@olejon.net> wrote:

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If they can't figure out that AUR packages may depend on other AUR packages, they really have no business running Arch.

That's not how Linux will become user-friendly.

Arch Linux is not supposed to be a distribution for Linux Newbies. (unless they are prepared to invest some time and learn) Being user-friendly is different for different kinds of users. Arch Linux is user-friendly because the tools are doing exactly what they are supposed to do and nothing more. For Linux Newbies who want things to "just work automatically" it is recommended to use another distribution with a compatible focus. Ubuntu would be a "compatible" choice. Creating packages is a pain compared to Arch Linux, but there is a big community and there are a lot of packages already. Some projects even provide Ubuntu/Debian packages "upstream". There are other more "newbie-friendly" distributions: Mint, openSUSE and Fedora come to my mind. -- JonnyJD

On 11/05/2015 11:15 AM, Félix Piédallu wrote:

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If they can't figure out that AUR packages may depend on other AUR packages, they really have no business running Arch.

That's not how Linux will become user-friendly.

If you need some easy way to install from AUR, then just use something like yaourt. Such tools use the header information to find all needed PKGBUILD's on AUR and compile them all in a queue to get the package, you want, installed. It is not the job of one individual PKGBUILD to be self-contained. One PKGBUILD will build one package and just references its dependencies. Manuel

On 2015-11-05 11:15, Félix Piédallu wrote:

Le 04/11/2015 17:50, Doug Newgard a écrit :

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On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 17:43:31 +0100 Ole Jon Bjørkum <mail@olejon.net> wrote:

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If they can't figure out that AUR packages may depend on other AUR packages, they really have no business running Arch.

That's not how Linux will become user-friendly.

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On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Ole Jon Bjørkum <mail@olejon.net> wrote: [...an awful lot about attitude...]

I'll make my package build the library instead, or add to my wiki page that people should install libgcrypt11 from AUR when installing my package, or else it won't work. I'll prefer the first option, because then only one

What Doug says. The informed AUR users are able to figure out makedepends and depends from AUR themselves. Please don't double your workload because you're new here. That's why makepkg fails on the unsatisfied dependency. cheers! mar77i