On Jan 4, 2008 8:10 PM, Eric Belanger wrote:

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, Ronald van Haren wrote:

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Hi all!

I just took a look at the orphaned packages in community. I must say, they are quite a few (68, I added the full list at the end of this mail).

If any of these belong to you and you did forget to adopt it after uploading, please do so now. If you did upload one of these and lost interest in it, please move it either to unsupported or post it in this thread so someone else can adopt it.

In about a week time I will post the remaining list of orphaned packages at that time, so anyone interested (or needed as a dep) can adopt one of those. The rest I will move to unsupported a week or so after that. If you think the time schedule I mentioned is too short, please let me know so I can change it.

Best regards,

Ronald

A few comments:

-Before moving a package to unsupported, make sure it is not a depends or makedepends of another community packages. Several packages in your list fall in this category.

Yes, I was planning to do so. Nothing will happen with these packages after 1 week adoption time for the uploader, 1 week adoption time for anyone else, after which I will create a list of things which cannot be removed because of makedepends and depends, and a list of removal candidates. Once I have published these lists I was planning to give another week to object on the removal candidates (and the other list) so the chance of mistakes is as small as possible.

-Keep gpsdrive in community. It's Damir's (a dev) package. He hasn't adopted it yet.

-About the e17 stuff, a forum user (reverie, I think) used to have a popular e17-cvs personal repo. I don't know if he's still maintaining it but, if he's interested in becoming a TU and you want to sponsor and vote him in, he could move his e17-cvs package in community to replace the orphaned e17 snapshots.

Okay, If no active TU wants to take those in the coming weeks I will see if the repo you mentioned is still active and of high quality and contact

Noted. I have put his name behind it on my own list so it will remain. I will contact him if he has not adopted it in a couple of weeks. the maintainer if so. Ronald

Just a reminder: You have about 2 more days to adopt orphaned packages in [community] that belong to you. After these two days they will end up on the list of packages which are free to be adopted by any TU. Best, Ronald

Okay. The first period has ended now. 13 packages where adopted, 2 new packages appear on the list (I may have missed them last time, or they were orphaned last week). This means we now have 57 orphaned packages in community. Before giving the list of the remaining packages, I would like to ask if someone has any interest in maintaining all of the e17 packages ? If no one steps up we should discuss what we want to do with e17. For all other packages, they will appear on a 'to be moved to unsupported' list in about a week, so we can final check this list. Now the list as is (you may find a more acutal list on the AUR web interface as people are adopting). The 2 new packages are: asterisk A complete PBX solution perl-io-stringy Perl/CPAN Module IO::Stringy : IO on incore objects like stringsarrays Rest of the packages (excluding e17 packages) aoeui 1.0.0-1 the lightweight, unobtrusive, Dvorak-optimized editor basilisk 1.0-4 A free, portable Mac II emulator with JIT compiler bitterbpp 1.6-4 A program to backup DVDs to matroska byzanz 0.1.1-4 A desktop recorder that records to GIF childsplay 0.85.1-2 A suite of educational games for young children childsplay-plugins 0.85.2-1 Additional games for childsplay codeine 1.0.1-2 A simple, smart xine video player for KDE cowbell 0.2.7.1-3 An elegant music orgainzer freetype1 1.3.1-4 TrueType font rendering library fvwm-themes-devel 0.7.0-3 Development themes for fvwm glitz 0.5.6-1 OpenGL image compositing library gourmet 0.13.4-2 A simple but powerful recipe-managing application gtk2+extra 2.1.1-1 GtkExtra is a useful set of widgets for creating GUI's for the Xwindows system using GTK+ gtk2hs 0.9.12.1-1 A GTK+2 binding for Haskell (prerelease) gtubeclock 0.9.1-3 A nixie tube style clock for X. haskell-binary 0.2-1 Efficient, pure binary serialisation using lazy ByteStrings for Haskell kdedecor-crystalgl 0.8.1-1 Transparent window decoration theme with a simple design and OpenGL-based effects kdenlive-svn 1727-1 A video editing GUI for KDE using the MLT video framework. last-exit 5-1 A last.fm player libggi 2.2.2-1 GGI graphics library libgii 1.0.1-2 GGI input handling library libpq++ 4.0-2 C++ bindings for PostgreSQL lirc-xmms-plugin 1.4-1 XMMS LIRC plugin mowitz 0.3.1-1 This is the Mowitz (More widgets) library php-gtk2 2.0.0beta-1 PHP bindings for gtk2 pyglet 1.0beta3-1 A pure python multimedia and game library pygoocanvas 0.9.0-1 GooCanvas python bindings qmmp 0.1.2-1 an qt4 based audio-player, rage 0.2.0.003-1 A media center designed mostly for use on a television hooked up to your pc via a remote control shapelib 1.2.10-3 simple C API for reading and writing ESRI Shapefiles shorewall-perl 4.0.5-1 perl compiler for shorewall firewall siag-office 3.6.1-4 Siag Office is a tightly integrated, free office package visualboyadvance 1.7.2-5 An emulator for Gameboy and Gameboy Advance systems. warzone 2.0.7-1 3D realtime strategy game on a future Earth winki 0.4.5-1 Aims to be the easiest program for video encoding zaptel 1.4.6-1 Zapatel Drivers for Asterisk e17 packages: e 0.16.999.039-1 Enlightenment Window Manager, Development Release 17 ecore 0.9.9.039-1 Event Abstraction and Modular Convenience Library edb-devel 1.0.5.007-4 Database Convenience Library wrapped around the Berkeley DB edje 0.5.0.039-1 Interface Abstraction Library and Toolset eet 0.9.10.039-1 Distribution Container Library and Tools efreet 0.0.3.004-1 An implementation of several specifications from freedesktop.org intended for use in Enlightenment DR17 (e17) and other applications using the Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (EFL) embryo 0.9.1.039-1 Embeddable Scripting Language emotion 0.0.1.006-1 Video Smart-Object Library for Evas entice 0.9.3.004-4 Image Viewer using Enlightenment Foundation Libraries entrance 0.9.0.010-1 Enlightenment Display Manager epeg 0.9.0.009-1 JPEG Thumbnailing Library epsilon 0.3.0.009-1 Thumbnailing Library compliant with Freedesktop.org Standard esmart 0.9.0.009-1 A Collection of Evas Smart Objects etk 0.1.0.004-1 Etk is a toolkit based on the EFL evas 0.9.9.039-1 Enlightened Canvas Library ewl 0.5.1.009-1 Enlightenment Widget Library e_dbus 0.1.0.001-1 Wrappers around dbus to ease integrating dbus with EFL based applications imlib2-devel 1.4.0.001-2 Image Rendering and Manipulation Library imlib2_loaders 1.4.0.001-1 Image Loaders for Imlib2 Best, Ronald

On Jan 11, 2008 1:29 PM, bardo wrote:

2008/1/11, Ronald van Haren :

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Before giving the list of the remaining packages, I would like to ask if someone has any interest in maintaining all of the e17 packages ? If no one steps up we should discuss what we want to do with e17.

I don't think there are TUs interested in e17... otherwise we would have heard from them. Did you try to contact the takhis repo maintainer? It looks like he's still updating the packages, and he's also AUR's maintainer (nickname: reverie).

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Currently we are busy with a [community] repo cleanup (for details see the aur-general mailing list). >>Sadly e17 group is among the currently orphaned

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It seems you are doing good work with your private e17 repo, people really

seem to enjoy using it. >>Had a quick glance over your CVS PKGBUILDs, and

I have just send reverie a mail. For future reference, as he may contact the aur-general mailing list directly, here is the relevant part: packages and until now no TU has stepped up to >>take maintainership over it. As such, we are currently looking for someone to maintain them. they seem to be in good shape (though license is >>an array).

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Anyways, I have a couple of questions for you:

Are you willing to become a TU to maintain e17 in community ? Are you able to build both for i686 and x86_64, and if not are you willing to use aaron's x86_64 build >>machine if needed ? What is your point of view on what we should provide of e17 in community ? Stable snapshots, or cvs >>versions ?

Other questions come to mind at a later stadium. Of course you will have to go through the same >>procedure to become a TU as everyone else.

You may answer directly to me, or on the aur-general mailing list.

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:56:20 +0100 "Ronald van Haren" wrote: gtk2+extra, pygoocanvas and glitz taken. Excuse me for retard. -- JJDaNiMoTh - ArchLinux Trusted User

On Jan 11, 2008 7:37 PM, Eric Belanger wrote:

rage is part of e17.

noticed

You might be planning to do that later on, but if you would seperate from the list the orphans that must remain in community because they are (make)depends of other packages and to list these packages (and their maintainers) that depends on orphans, you might speed up the adoption of these orphans, as logically, a maintainer should make sure that all his packages' dependencies are maintained by himself or another TU.

Yeah I was indeed waiting a couple of days to check that, hoping that some more packages would be adopted so it would be less work :p Anyway, I should have time to do it either tomorrow or the day after tomorrow. If anyone could step up to check the same for molok's packages I would be glad :) I will check all the orphaned packages, but I can make mistakes, so if you have time in the coming 10 or so days, please check that none of the orphans is a dependency of one of your packages in community.

2008/1/13, Alexander Fehr :

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 15:54:23 +0100 "Ronald van Haren" <pressh gmail com> wrote:

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If anyone could step up to check the same for molok's packages I would be glad :)

I have checked the orphans and mOLOk's packages if they are depends or makedepends of other community packages. Here is a list of the relevant packages with their maintainers:

freetype1: w3cam (sergej)

libggi: libggimisc (dejari)

libgii: libgiigic (dejari)

AFAIR dejari has resigned so all his community packages should be added to orphans list. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

I think the same applies to STiAT. Here is the updated list after checking dejari's and STiAT's community packages:

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perl-io-stringy: perl-class-trigger (firmicus) perl-mail-box (sergej) perl-mime-tools (firmicus)

Adopted perl-io-stringy F

First a question (it has already been asked twice, though i've not seen an answer), it may get lost if I put it at the end of the list.... Is it possible to move these packages to unsupported/remove them in another way as described in the wiki (you see it will take quite a while that way) ? Time for the updated list. I tried to categorize them a bit. First the packages which should remain in [community] because of dependencies. Please adopt them if your name is behind it: shapelib 1.2.10-3 (dtw (gen2shp&gpsmanshp), bfinch(xastir)) shorewall-perl 4.0.5-1 (dtw, shorewall) freetype1 1.3.1-4 (sergej, w3cam) adns 1.4-1 (snowman (will you adopt it?))

From Molok's packages, I though I've read somewhere on dev-public it will be moved to [extra] in time, though I can't find the message now. The packages I mean are (any1 willing to adopt them?): smplayer 0.5.62-1 smplayer-themes 0.1.14-1

The original list of orphaned packages which are not adopted yet and are not required by any other community/dev package (they will move to unsupported): aoeui 1.0.0-1 asterisk 1.4.5-1 basilisk 1.0-4 bitterbpp 1.6-4 byzanz 0.1.1-4 childsplay 0.85.1-2 childsplay-plugins 0.85.2-1 cowbell 0.2.7.1-3 fvwm-themes-devel 0.7.0-3 gtk2hs 0.9.12.1-1 gtubeclock 0.9.1-3 haskell-binary 0.2-1 kdedecor-crystalgl 0.8.1-1 kdenlive-svn 1727-1 libggi 2.2.2-1 libgii 1.0.1-2 libpq++ 4.0-2 lirc-xmms-plugin 1.4-1 mowitz 0.3.1-1 obmenu 1.0-3 openbox-themes 1.0.1-2 php-gtk2 2.0.0beta-1 pyglet 1.0beta3-1 siag-office 3.6.1-4 winki 0.4.5-1 xen 3.1.2-2 zaptel 1.4.6-1 The e17 packages will be removed altogether, for reasons I described in that other thread. Whenever e17 comes into beta (if it will ever) it is time to have these kind of packages around. The list: e17 (will be removed, e17-cvs is now in community) e 0.16.999.039-1 ecore 0.9.9.039-1 edb-devel 1.0.5.007-4 edje 0.5.0.039-1 eet 0.9.10.039-1 efreet 0.0.3.004-1 embryo 0.9.1.039-1 emotion 0.0.1.006-1 entice 0.9.3.004-4 entrance 0.9.0.010-1 epeg 0.9.0.009-1 epsilon 0.3.0.009-1 esmart 0.9.0.009-1 etk 0.1.0.004-1 evas 0.9.9.039-1 ewl 0.5.1.009-1 e_dbus 0.1.0.001-1 imlib2-devel 1.4.0.001-2 imlib2_loaders 1.4.0.001-1 rage 0.2.0.003-1 Remaining packages from Molok (will be moved to unsupported) Packages from MOLOK: ddclient 3.7.3-1 fpconst 0.7.3-1 gnu-efi 3.0a-2 gpomme 1.12-1 lxmusic 0.1.1-2 lxpanel 0.2.4-2 lxsession 0.1.1-3 mairix 0.21-1 netwmpager 1.11-1 pommed 1.12-2 python-soappy 0.12.0-5 refit 0.7-3 sux 1.0.1-1 xkbset 0.5-2 Packages from Dejari (will be moved to unsupported): awesfx 0.5.0d-2 dejagnu 1.4.4-1 klogoturtle 0.6-2 libggimisc 2.2.1-2 libgiigic 1.1.1-2 man2texi 0.01-2 sidplay 1.0.9-1 zsh-lovers 0.5-1 Packages from Stiat (will be moved to unsupported): codeblocks 1.0_4696-1 cupsddk 1.1.1-2 doxygenfilter 1.01-2 gtk-recordmydesktop 0.3.7-1 hwinfo 13.48-1 kdvdauthorwizard 1.4.6-2 kftpgrabber 0.8.1-1 kima 0.7.4-3 kio-sysinfo 1.8.2-2 qsvn 0.6.0-1 qt-recordmydesktop 0.3.7-1 rapidsvn 0.9.4-1 soundkonverter 0.3.6-1 Packages from Zeus (will be moved to unsupported): dellfand 0.8-1 linuxdcpp-ru 070717-1 microdc2 0.15.6-1 qdevelop 0.24-1 qsa 1.2.2-2 rafkill 1.2.3-2 rb_libtorrent 0.12-3 sdcv 0.4.2-1 slurm 0.3.3-1 tweak 0.2.2-1 uucp 1.07-1 yakuake-split 2.8.1.1-2 Package from Zeus which should be removed (uses -git now): weechat-cvs 20070805-1 Please everyone check if there is any package left you would like to adopt. The move of packages will start somewhere at the end of the week (the e17 packages may be removed before that). Please also check for any errors I made in the list. ps. If you are bored, read the list again ;) Let's all try to keep [community] a bit cleaner in the future (we can have an orphaned package thread once in a while if needed). Thank you all Ronald

On 21 Jan 2008 Ronald van Haren wrote:

The original list of orphaned packages which are not adopted yet and are not required by any other community/dev package (they will move to unsupported): libpq++ 4.0-2

I think libpq++ is required by pgadmin3 (dsa). Alex

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008, Ronald van Haren wrote:

First a question (it has already been asked twice, though i've not seen an answer), it may get lost if I put it at the end of the list....

Is it possible to move these packages to unsupported/remove them in another way as described in the wiki (you see it will take quite a while that way) ?

Time for the updated list. I tried to categorize them a bit.

First the packages which should remain in [community] because of dependencies. Please adopt them if your name is behind it: shapelib 1.2.10-3 (dtw (gen2shp&gpsmanshp), bfinch(xastir)) shorewall-perl 4.0.5-1 (dtw, shorewall) freetype1 1.3.1-4 (sergej, w3cam) adns 1.4-1 (snowman (will you adopt it?))

No. Whoever's has a package that depends on it should adopt it. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:54:19 +0100 "Ronald van Haren" wrote:

xen 3.1.2-2 Adopted by sergej

gtk-recordmydesktop 0.3.7-1 kdvdauthorwizard 1.4.6-2 qt-recordmydesktop 0.3.7-1

Adopted

Thank you all

Ronald

No, thank you for the work ! -- JJDaNiMoTh - ArchLinux Trusted User

On 1/21/08, Ronald van Haren wrote:

Packages from Stiat (will be moved to unsupported): qsvn 0.6.0-1

Adopted. Bjørn

Okay, now nesl247 has officially resigned as a TU, his packages are added to the list. These packages are no dependencies of other [community] packages (only the last three in the short list depend on each other). Please adopt if you would like to maintain one of these packages: gtvg 0.3-1 screenlets 0.0.10-3 pycups 1.9.28-1 hal-cups-utils 0.6.13-1 system-config-printer 0.7.76-2 note: screenlets has 54 votes, depends on a number of gnome stuff via gnome-python-desktop, so it would be great if someone with a bunch of gnome stuff could adopt it). Ronald

On Jan 22, 2008 11:16 PM, Roman Kyrylych wrote:

2008/1/23, Ronald van Haren :

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Okay, now nesl247 has officially resigned as a TU, his packages are added to the list. These packages are no dependencies of other [community] packages (only the last three in the short list depend on each other). Please adopt if you would like to maintain one of these packages:

gtvg 0.3-1 screenlets 0.0.10-3

pycups 1.9.28-1 hal-cups-utils 0.6.13-1 system-config-printer 0.7.76-2

note: screenlets has 54 votes, depends on a number of gnome stuff via gnome-python-desktop, so it would be great if someone with a bunch of gnome stuff could adopt it).

I guess that's me. But I'm in process of updating my packages via slooow internet connection (>20 left), so I'm not sure if it's correct for me to adopt yet another package. So let me know if you're ok with me adopting it (as well as that system-config-printer and friends) if noone else wants them.

-- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

It is really you who needs to decide that. If you are sure you (and your connection) can handle the extra workload, please adopt it. If you have any doubts about that somebody else should step up. It is your call, just let us know what you decide. I'm happy with either decision if you think it is the right one.

2008/1/23, Eric Belanger :

On Wed, 23 Jan 2008, Roman Kyrylych wrote:

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2008/1/23, Ronald van Haren :

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Okay, now nesl247 has officially resigned as a TU, his packages are added to the list. These packages are no dependencies of other [community] packages (only the last three in the short list depend on each other). Please adopt if you would like to maintain one of these packages:

gtvg 0.3-1 screenlets 0.0.10-3

pycups 1.9.28-1 hal-cups-utils 0.6.13-1 system-config-printer 0.7.76-2

note: screenlets has 54 votes, depends on a number of gnome stuff via gnome-python-desktop, so it would be great if someone with a bunch of gnome stuff could adopt it).

I guess that's me. But I'm in process of updating my packages via slooow internet connection (>20 left), so I'm not sure if it's correct for me to adopt yet another package. So let me know if you're ok with me adopting it (as well as that system-config-printer and friends) if noone else wants them.

I've adopted these popular orphans: netwmpager soundkonverter kftpgrabber

IMO, at 50+ votes, screenlets should stay in community. Roman: Unless someone else is interested, adopt it. If you are limited on time/bandwith, I could help with the updates. I'll do the next update.

Ok, I'll adopt it today. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

2008/1/24, Roman Kyrylych :

Adopted: * screenlets 0.0.10-3 * pycups 1.9.28-1 * hal-cups-utils 0.6.13-1 * system-config-printer 0.7.76-2 Will update screenlets soon.

Also adopted gtvg. So all nesl247's community packages have new maintainers now. -- Roman Kyrylych (Роман Кирилич)

On 1/24/08, Ronald van Haren wrote:

I see awesome (the window manager) is now also listed as an orphan.

Vegai, as you are listed in the maintainer tag of the PKGBUILD, did you do this by accident or do you want somebody else to adopt it ?

I want somebody else to adopt it. I was just about to announce this.

To anyone who adopts it: Note that the current PKGBUILD doesn't work with the current upstream version, because they changed from the dwm configuration style to autotools. --vk

Yesterday I moved all packages from the orphan list, including all packages in [community] owned by stiat, dejari and zeus to unsupported. Molok's packages have been moved to unsupported a few days ago by someone else. So, if not done yet, the CVS accounts of stiat, dejari, zeus, and molok can be removed. Remains the few packages that need to be adopted in [community]. Please do so, I've already been asking this a couple of times. These packages are: adns 1.4-1 (swiergot (liboop) OR sergej)) freetype1 1.3.1-4 (sergej (w3cam)) helixplayer (snowman said he will either update it or move to unsupported) libpq++ (dsa (pgadmin3)) python-pysvn (dsa, you just uploaded it, just a notice you still need to adopt it) shapelib 1.2.10-3 (dtw (gen2shp&gpsmanshp), bfinch(xastir)) shorewall-perl 4.0.5-1 (dtw (shorewall))